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I think that this is not necessary, Fan not is OP, and after a old update there is no more bump effect for free kills and you need a minimum damage and distance for a real knockback effect

Fan is specially worse for scouts battles and is worst on the paper
A Scatergun with only 2 shells can fire the 2 shells and reload them faster than FAN

Scatergun
* Attack Interval: 0.64
* Reload Base (1 shell): 0.76
* Additional Reload (2 shell and the rest): 0.56
Time to fire 2 shell and reload 2 shells 1.96

FAN
* Attack Interval: 0.4267
* Reload 2 shells: 1.64
Time to fire 2 shell and reload 2 shells 2.066, more slow than scater, and this asume that the shells are fired in the short time of 0.426 sec something that is rarely done

Scatergun with 4 more shots is vastly superior than FAN that yes, make 10% more damage but this not is really a great diference, only 7 hp more
Scater damage 105 at point blank
FAN damage 112 (113 sometimes) at point blank

I think that Knockback is far of be an adadvantage, is very good in some situations, but in the most situations throw your victim away from your shotgun not is good

Finally the FAN jumps help to offset these problems, they give a lot of mobility and add another diferent and good thing to the game

tl;dr

fans shit

It’s annoying as hell to play against. If you can see that it is worse, why does it even need to be there?

PS: don’t expect anything to change, it’s been done many times before

Annoying is not a valid criteria for banning. If a weapon unbalances or breaks the game then it should be banned, not because it is annoying.

How annoying is Natasha on jumping sollies on gpit C? Or the backblast pushing your uber back out of last point badlands?

Has their been an official announcment regarding unlocks yet?

Yes the provisional thinking on what to allow and ban was flawed, but that is all it was provisional thinking. See what the actual unlock rules are first.

But whatever the official ruling anyone that plays us, will be allowed to use ANY VALVE unlocks, as long as you return the favour, tbh we’d probably allow all community unlocks aswell if you wanted to use them

Quoted from compton

Doesn’t really make you want to learn to use the unlocks, for example Gunboats or Equalizer.

This

Quoted from blorg

ot: Making the 14056th thread about ”FaN not hack i see him at lan!!1” isn’t going to change the admin’s opinion on whether to use it or not since they’ve always previously said no, and there was an identical thread yesterday about the same topic in which the reply was no.

*in which the reply was “it’s not final, so don’t take it as final”

Quoted from kuma

ok, learning gunboats is one thing, but what is there to learn about equalizer?

There isn’t that much to learn about gunboats either. It’s not like walljumps/boostjumps are that hard to do.