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Quoted from octochris

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It seems they already shipped the update with the addon block for L4D2, so unless they are just taking their time, it looks like TF2 will be left alone.

Will email Robin and ask.

that was actually my point. why should they block some plugin for tf2, that does not provide any advantage.

the l4d2 plugin made your fov bigger. obvious why they would forbid such a plugin. even if someone stated that valve was going to ban all plugins, it would just have been ridiculously stupid.

“Someone exploited in L4D2.” – “What shall we do?” – “Let’s forbid TF2 plugins!” ???

sometimes i just dont understand valve…

note: i didnt read the whole steamforums thread

Quoted from Extremer

They wanted to block the exploit that allowed that plugin to be executed. Afaik PREC uses the same method to work.

Well, not exactly, but it does still inject itself into hl2.exe.

Quoted from dotfloat™

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It doesn’t inject itself… hl2 loads up the dll on its own, which is totally legal and controlled by valve.

yes, “inject” was the wrong word, blame my 3am mind farts.

but still, it’s not really /controlled/ by valve, I mean, they don’t implement any sort of WL (or BL?) — if they did block addons, a WL would be pretty useful.

The L4D2 plugin only changed viewmodel fov anyway, not actual fov. theres a big difference.

Message from Robin I just got, they are blocking addons in TF2.

Hi Christopher.
Yes, we’ll be blocking client-side plugins in TF2 as well. VAC will be handling it, so it’ll apply to all VAC enabled games.The reason behind the blocking is quite straightforward: cheating, in particular in competitive matches. If players can run client-side plugins, they can easily cheat in any number of ways that’ll ruin your competitive matches, from simple things like enabling the use of all convars that are supposed to be marked as cheats, to more complex things like wallhacks and aimbots.

PREC is super neat though, and we’ll either allow it specifically, or integrate its functionality directly into the game.

Robin.

fuck yeah prec is not going to die!

“integrate its functionality directly into the game.”

it would be awesome, but we all know, this won’t happen as the new demo format either :(

the first information(email from robin walker) about the new demo format was in 2008 january, and they said, “almost done, it’s already is beta”

However they wanted, just let make it happen. PREC is outstanding plugin to take care of little things and yes, it should have been already part of the game imho.