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Quoted from Tikcus

lol have fun, unlock rules are fail.

top 10 teams polled, who have pretty much all publicaly said they want to play without unlocks, minority rules ESL i see.

For one i’m pleased Wireplay ESH, and ETf2L, are better ran.

So ESL shouldn’t offer the TF2 community some diversity?
I think its a good idea, a way to appease those who want no unlocks without all the whine on these forums. If the “Minority” rule ESL then im sure only 9 teams will sign up….oh wait?

ESL shouldn’t fucking spam my e-mail telling me about every change they make. I mean cmon , i email is enough – 5 of the same are too many.

Quoted from Moose

ESL did exactly the right decision with their unlockable rules, especially when ETF2L decided allow everything. Now the teams not wishing to play with bows, swords and shields can enjoy the games in another respectable league without them.

And I’m surprised to see someone claiming that the majority wants to play with all the new weapons. From what I’ve seen it’s completely the other way around, but of course I’m familiar with mostly top end players, and their opinions on this matter are clear. The Finnish scene as well has seen after countless gather games with both formats that the “pre-war” rules are simply more enjoyable to play with, so I’d say that the vast majority of the Finnish scene from top to bottom also supports the ESL rules instead of ETF2L’s. That’s why the Finnish “invite” gathers are nowadays always played with pre-war rules and the “noob” gathers 95% of the times as well.

Another reason to support ESL is that they are a huge league and if the normal TF2 leagues at ESL are popular and succesful, it’s much more likely that TF2 could get better prize purses and more exposure in their bigger leagues like EMS or ENC. I’ve said it for a long time and I say it again that limiting your activity to ETF2L is not good for the growth and potential of the TF2 scene as a whole.

this

Cadred news http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/92475/

74 teams registered.

Quoted from Moose

From what I’ve seen it’s completely the other way around, but of course I’m familiar with mostly top end players, and their opinions on this matter are clear.

It’s mostly because the people against the war unlocks are the loudest ones. People who don’t care much about the unlocks topic are not going to write wall of texts on forums, and I think those are the actual majority.

In the french pickups, everything is allowed and there’s not many complaints about it (well you hardly see targe/sword and TDH are quite rare too, but that’s because they’re weaker), so it works too.

Anyway, it’s good that ESL went the no-unlock way to provide an alternative, also the premier league thing is awesome.

Quoted from bpf

and no custom huds ;)

what is this i don’t even

EDIT: this will teach me to read through threads before posting

Quoted from d2m

Anakin stop sending me retarded emails from ESL. The latest of which being a list of teams with no steam ids, none of which is mine. I really don’t care if they do or don’t have them. I care about receiving crappy spam from ESL, which is all I’ve got in the last week.

Quoted from AnAkkk

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Sorry, of course that was not intended. There was a problem with the mail sending system which resulted in this.