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In light of the action with the Team Fortress 2 Beta 2.0, we at Zerobull.net decided it would be a good idea to undergo some balancing tests of our own. For this, we have created a “hardcore” server with some mods to the gameplay and balance to try to test some things out. But as with any type of testing, its better to have more participants than less, and what better place to test out comp style tf2 than with etf2l players? Its still a work of progress and the mods as of now are listed below, while future changes will be listed here aswell as in the appropriate thread on zerobull.net.

Hardcore Server
IP: 77.92.85.178:27017
No password

Ventrillo
IP: 195.242.238.105
Port: 6389
No password
list for features of the ‘Hardcore’ server.
77.92.85.178:27017
cp_granary
cp_yukon_rc2
cp_gravelpit
cp_badlands

* All unlocks disabled apart from the Razorback, the Blutsauger, the Sandvich and the Axtinguisher
* All health packs are replaced by small healthpacks
* Health cabinets removed
* Snipers can only do damage by shooting the head, body shots do nothing
* People do not ignite instantly, Pyro’s must burn someone for an extra second before they are ignited, they will still receive normal damage.
* Stat points are doubled on this server, however – each death incurs a penalty of 2 points
* Player count based class locks, requires 14 players on the server to enable scouts, medics and engineers.
* Fall damage has been removed
* Demoman’s sticky launcher has been limited to 4 stickies per clip
* Scout’s scattergun damage has been reduced slightly (-2 per bullet, 10 bullets per shot)

Class Limits;

1 Medic
2 Scouts
2 Snipers
2 Heavies
3 Soldiers
1 Demoman
2 Spies
2 Engineers

Any suggestions to any changes to help improve balance are greatly appreciated.

Demo nerf? The fuck! ;O

scout has been slightly nerved ….. 33 percent is a bit much imo though, you will hardly be able to 2shot any other scouts, gonna have to hit almost all pelets

And this is the kind of feedback we asked for, keep it coming

so thus far after some playtesting for scout and demo like this we will try increase damage etc until it reaches a happy medium between impossible and super easy

the reason were changing it at all is because we want to experiment with different kinds of balance, see what happens when the demo is forced to dedicate in one direction or the other or when scouts have to play a little more reserved. Its not because we feel that the game is not balanced as is, but rather want to see how it plays if you tweak it a bit.

I don’t see the point of this

well why would we try to do whats already been done by valve in their testing? we simply want to try out some new and a little more out there theories of balance. We took inspiration from valve in that they are working on the game, if you want to find a simulation for the beta im afraid you will have to look elsewhere.

and please, try to keep the criticism constructive towards the project.

Why the nerf on demoman? He hasn’t had a single buff , EVER. Since the “grenade bowling” feature was removed from the demoman a month after tf2 was released he hasn’t had a single update , and now you nerf him some more? Why?

It’s interesting how he was never changed , but somewhere along the lines of last year he somehow became overpowered. :)))))))

And does the sniper’s “headshot only” thingy also affect his secondary weapon?

And btw, what’s up with the pyro thingie? Have fun trying to light up a running scout ;o