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ESL - Whiskas 1 on 1 Scout Cup
Created 11th February 2011 @ 18:29
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Quoted from reactioN
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okay anniii but dont ban my second on esl ok i want to play there (((
Sure, sign up once again if you want to wait an other 2 years before being able to play.
btw why whiskas?
its a shit map….
Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN
btw why whiskas?
its a shit map….
why?
should’ve used duel_duel2_pro
Quoted from Shintaz
should’ve used duel_duel2_pro
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Quoted from catman
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it’s a straightforward 1on1 map.
no bs waiting to spawn, no bs health kits, no bs obstacles. it’s a head on collision, which (imo) is exactly what 1on1 should be about.
Quoted from Shintaz
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it’s a straightforward 1on1 map.
no bs waiting to spawn, no bs health kits, no bs obstacles. it’s a head on collision, which (imo) is exactly what 1on1 should be about.
true story
wiskas is stupid.
random spawning behind me
healthpack
stupid layout
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Considering the prize money is being put up by the map maker i find it unlikely he would want to play this cup on a different map.
i like the map
if you want duel2 layout, go play mge on badlands mid
Quoted from Dr-GimpfeN
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true story
wiskas is stupid.
random spawning behind me
healthpack
stupid layout
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Quoted from Shintaz
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it’s a straightforward 1on1 map.
no bs waiting to spawn, no bs health kits, no bs obstacles. it’s a head on collision, which (imo) is exactly what 1on1 should be about.
Ok its dm map
Should i explain u what dm is in other games?
If you’re comparing your map to the likes of the DM maps in the most popular DM games (I’m using quake as an example here) you are completely on the wrong train.
In quake, the maps do not only require the players to be constantly on their toes, they also need to know the map inside and out. Let me do a short summary here:
Quake 1on1
Knowledge – item timing, damage done, damage taken, knowing when to back out/go for it.
Aim/movement – straightforward.
Improvisation and quick thinking – doing something completely unexpected to catch your opponent off guard.
Precision – knowing that one missed item or one small mishap can change the pace of the whole game.
Arsenal – you have a lot more than three guns available to you, each specialising in certain situations
TF2 1on1 (on whiskas)
Aim/movement – straightforward
Running to the water when you kill your opponent, as the spawn times are TOO LONG
Sorry. There is no comparison between TF2 DM and “dm in other games”. There just isn’t. All you do in TF2 DM is aim and move, which is why it’s TEAM fortress 2 – it requires a helluva lot more teamwork than it does individual skill. I’m not saying duel_duel2_pro measures up to the likes of an intense battle between rapha and dahang on bloodrun, but it certainly levels out the playing field in terms of a 1on1 scout situation.
(I’m not a HUGE quake player, so forgive me if anything said is wrong/inaccurate. Holy shit, wall of text. I feel like Arx)
Last edited by Shintaz,
I agree with shintaz. Quake DM has alot more depth you’ll never get in tf2 regardless the map. The item spawns and mapcontrol is huge whereas in a 1on1 scout duel there is no need for map control. The medpack in the water is the closest thing you’ve got to that and yet it’s just a death trap if you’re opponent is up so yeah… May aswell use duel_duel2. Tbh though a newer map would be nice that actually makes movement more of a key skill. duel_duel2 is just adadadadadada; there are no props to use. This is the only advantage whiskas has, yet even whiskas is too short on obstacles to warrant it’s use. (Unlike shintaz I’d like more enviroment/props to dodge around and use. It’s another aspect of skill to use the map properly and to have the awareness to outplay your opponent)
Last edited by GibbZ,
Quoted from Shintaz
If you’re comparing your map to the likes of the DM maps in the most popular DM games (I’m using quake as an example here) you are completely on the wrong train.
In quake, the maps do not only require the players to be constantly on their toes, they also need to know the map inside and out. Let me do a short summary here:
Quake 1on1
Knowledge – item timing, damage done, damage taken, knowing when to back out/go for it.
Aim/movement – straightforward.
Improvisation and quick thinking – doing something completely unexpected to catch your opponent off guard.
Precision – knowing that one missed item or one small mishap can change the pace of the whole game.
Arsenal – you have a lot more than three guns available to you, each specialising in certain situationsTF2 1on1 (on whiskas)
Aim/movement – straightforward
Running to the water when you kill your opponent, as the spawn times are TOO LONGSorry. There is no comparison between TF2 DM and “dm in other games”. There just isn’t. All you do in TF2 DM is aim and move, which is why it’s TEAM fortress 2 – it requires a helluva lot more teamwork than it does individual skill. I’m not saying duel_duel2_pro measures up to the likes of an intense battle between rapha and dahang on bloodrun, but it certainly levels out the playing field in terms of a 1on1 scout situation.
(I’m not a HUGE quake player, so forgive me if anything said is wrong/inaccurate. Holy shit, wall of text. I feel like Arx)
Ok) good_) maybe my english is not good but i think u forgot something
Position holding, respawn controling
Ok so i think my map has
Position holding
Respawn controling
healf and ammo colecting
aim and etc
improvisation and quick thinking
Knowledge -damage done, damage taken, knowing when to back out/go for it.
ok any way its my opinion and also i think thise topic is not to good to speak about map
also here u can ost news idias about map http://etf2l.org/forum/maps/topic-10573/?recent=214472 (havent updated it for long time)
and here u can make a topic and give idias what maps in futures cup should be look like
http://www.esl.eu/eu/#/eu/tf2/forum/1016/6922/?lastvisit=1297803155
Quoted from Shintaz
If you’re comparing your map to the likes of the DM maps in the most popular DM games (I’m using quake as an example here) you are completely on the wrong train.
If you’re on the wrong train, chances are you’re playing badlands.
recently played on this map .actually good map
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