Highlander Season 2

Division 2B

Week 4

Date Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by Gubbins (Parrot Gapers)



0 - 2

[Screenshots: A ]



1 - 3

[Screenshots: A ]

France DAROUTOUTOU vs European Parrot Gapers
0 - 6

SteamID Screenshots: A B


DAROUTOUTOU (9) MC Salo, Onirik, Plapla, Sadr, Obi, .Bb, Tek, Flippy, steher
Parrot Gapers (8) Tricks, Si^, wpminnows, Poop, Jaroi, Gubbins, Imperium, Side|Effect
Unrostered (2) Shintaz, Ijantis



  1. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Tuesday, 17 April 2012, 20:00
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  2. .Bb: DA! said:

    Connect ?

  3. Gubbins: T O R T - hi im dog said:

    Could one of you accept my friend invite? We’re all ready.

  4. .Bb: DA! said:

    connect ; password yatata

  5. .Bb: DA! said:

    no show, gg



  6. Gubbins: T O R T - hi im dog said:

    Congratulations. Rejecting my friend request, twice then refusing to add me then refusing to reschedule when asked by the admin. Enjoy your fair play award.

  7. Obi: DA! said:

    “We’re all ready.” Never see you, end of discuss.

  8. Si^: T2P - [PG] said:

    Why did you insist on not try to play the game?

    kinda sad.

  9. pala4 said:

    change name to default team

  10. steher said:


  11. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:

    ” “We’re all ready.” Never see you, end of discuss. ”

    Wow, so you even admit to being a default hunting faggot?

    Just grow some balls and play us. We all want to play this, and are ready, but you reject the friend invite and dont confirm a game, and just post the connect string in the match page??? How is this even allowed?

  12. Perry the Platypus: (Cat Enthusiast) - 一一═デ︻ said:

    Posting the connect string 7 mins after the supposed start of the game too

  13. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:


    Apparantly skyride argued for our case for a good hour too, as anyone could clearly see they were trying to steal the win.

    Congratulations on the win, faggots.

  14. Imperium said:

    It’s clearly futile trying to argue about the legitimacy of what they’ve done, since it’s entirely within the rules.

    What I want to know, though, is why do you actually play in ETF2L? If you’re trying to win and get to the highest division, that’s great, but if you don’t win promotion based on actually playing games then chances are the admins won’t put you in a higher division next season and even if you do you won’t be good enough. I don’t doubt that you guys are pretty skilled but surely if you have any confidence in your own ability, you’d want to play?

    If it’s for fun, it clearly isn’t fun not playing the matches and getting promoted to a division where, once again, you don’t deserve to be. You guys may well beat us in a match, but you should at least play us to decide rather than artificially win.

    For your own sake, I sincerely hope you figure out what you’re trying to do in this league. I couldn’t care less about a default loss, but I care for the sake of you being decent people that what you’ve done makes literally no sense for whatever you’re trying to achieve.

  15. mustardoverlord: :) said:

    tbh it sounds like a case of trying to follow the letter of the law and not the spirit here.

    I mean it’s clear that the rules never intended for shit like this.

  16. Beef: Dawson said:

    poor behaviour.

  17. Sacrilege: 177013 - pizza said:

    Your ancestors are smiling, the sniveling cowards

  18. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - Ascent said:

    wow expected better behaviour from team punchline

  19. Rainbow Dash™: |SAFF| said:

    I agree with mustardoverlord here, the rules need to not be applied so literally in cases like this.

  20. kaidus: 7 - WiK? said:

    LOL what a bunch of faggots

  21. sno: GoT<3 - itsallgood said:

    go play in your french league

    go fuck with your own croissants

  22. sno: GoT<3 - itsallgood said:

    and baquettes

  23. Vlijm: GoT<3 - Soup! said:


    Nice dick move frenchies

  24. Thalash: 7 - S-O said:

    Should just get rescheduled, you won’t get promoted if you default your way to 1st place.

    If you’re only playing this to get a shiny award then what the fuck is the point? Isn’t it better to play your games, have a chance of winning and maybe in the end get promoted to division 1 and win monayyyyyy.

  25. .Bb: DA! said:


  26. Beef: Dawson said:

    Hello DAROUTOUTOU and Parrot Gapers,

    After reviewing this case with the admin team and pointing at rule 7.3, we realise the default win was awarded too quickly. Judging by the evidence on this matchpage and from what both teams have told us, it seems that neither team has done sufficient effort to get this match played before the match was supposed to start. We do not think posting a connect string after the supposed start of a match is sufficient effort.

    As we consider both teams equally at fault, we decided the only fair decision is give you another chance to play this match. We’ll give you untill sunday to reschedule this match, if this does not succeed, another default date will be set. I hope both teams have learned a lesson about documenting scheduling efforts on the match page. It goes without saying we are going to watch your efforts closely in the following days.

    Additionally, we are handing out a minor warning for flaming to Parrot Gapers.
    Kaidus and Snoozer will also receive a temporary forum ban for flaming.

  27. steher said:


  28. Obi: DA! said:

    ROFL what a joke.
    We never received any friend requests. Also Gubb1ns already had Flippy in his friend’s list. Tek (which is one of the the leaders) has to had him because he never did it. We’ve sent you the Connect after you said “We’re ready”. We waited 15 minutes. No one showed. You were not really ready.
    Calling all your circlejerk was pretty funny btw.

    GG admins.

  29. Onirik said:

    I’m positive nobody ever received a friend invite.

    I don’t understand the point of having the choice to default win if you can just invalidate a default win like that.

    The connect was given, nobody showed up after 15 mins, and nobody made it sound like they were ready.

    I don’t even understand why is there even an argument going on; if the team didn’t show up 15 minutes after the scheduled match time, they should lose, shouldn’t they? Or is knowing a few admins is enough to walk around the rules?

    We got a default lose because we couldn’t show up to our previous match, and yet nobody gave a shit.

    I’m willing to play that match but I absolutely don’t understand how can you just ignore all the rules. They weren’t here. We were here. It’s as simple as that. That’s how it works and that’s how it has always worked.

    And spare us the casual anti-french racism, not all of us are French and besides I don’t understand how being a jerk is going to change anything.

    I guess asking an admin if you can waltz around the rules for a match is okay, now, is it? Sounds like circlejerking to me. Pointless argument.

  30. cookye said:


  31. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    It’s quite simple, onirik:

    – There was no scheduling attempt on the matchpage from either team.
    – The time it was supposed to start Darou asked for the connect info.
    – 3 minutes later Gubbins asked one of you to accept his friend invite.
    – The only response to that was the connect info to your server, 4 minutes later.
    – 12 minutes after posting that you claimed the default win.
    – Status screenshot showed only 1 person on the server for 34 minutes, the rest on 8 minutes or less.

    There is not enough proof that the correct procedure was followed, nor is there any proof of any kind an agreement was made on the server.

    And this is while ignoring for a second the connect info was given after the match was supposed to have started already.

  32. _Ben: ;? said:

    lol DAROUTOUTOU wrecked?

  33. MC Salo: DA! said:

    There is nothing simple.

    No admin answered my main questions :

    (I must precise, the main question isn’t “which admin’s dick not even sucked by a parrot can I suck?”)

    -No connexion recorded from them.
    -The Parrot leader telling Tek he would like to play the match later.
    -No one from us wanting to let them watch their football match. We must organize ourselves to be here, they must organize themselves to be here /discuss
    -No one from them coming.
    -They whine on the forum telling friends to come and react on the topic

    What do you really want?

    You want screenshots? I can give you all of them.
    I can include we stayed on the server for 3 hours, I can include the mother of anybody as a skin of the scout and it doesn’t prove anything.

    Really: just tell me what proof you need. I promise I can give you one…

    We gave a default win to the other team on our last match.
    You know why? Because we missed a player and that the opposite leader didn’t wish to make the match later.
    It grants our honesty more than any screenshot of any whining team.

  34. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    The default loss for DAROUTOUTOU here http://etf2l.org/matches/33841/ was entered because one of your leaders submitted a result as 5-0 5-0 loss for DA! stating “DEFAULTLOSE.jpg” in the match report and I changed it to a “real” default loss. If that was incorrect, why did nobody of you contest the result?

  35. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    – No proof or even an indication of said conversation with Tek.
    – Noone from them coming is covered in my post before.
    – Scheduling games is not a 1 way street the way you imply it to be.

  36. .Bb: DA! said:

    Canforama ?

  37. MC Salo: DA! said:

    The default loss for DAROUTOUTOU here http://etf2l.org/matches/33841/ was entered because one of your leaders submitted a result as 5-0 5-0 loss for DA! stating “DEFAULTLOSE.jpg” in the match report and I changed it to a “real” default loss. If that was incorrect, why did nobody of you contest the result?


    That’s exactly what I’m talking about.
    Why (the fuck) will we make a “default win hunt” while we gave default win to the previous team?

    – No proof or even an indication of said conversation with Tek.

    You want the proof?
    I can give it to you.
    You want text?
    Do you want to be part of the discution? ^^

  38. _Ben: ;? said:

    Poop: “stfu and grow up please.”

  39. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    MC Salo: My comment was aimed at some members from DA! that complained about the default loss you received, I wrote it before I saw your comment.

    If you think you have proof that you can add to the case feel free to give it to an admin on IRC, screenshots work best.

  40. Onirik said:

    To Buffalo Bill:

    They wanted to play the match another day; we didn’t. They refused to show up, we did. The attempts were done successfully and privately between our leader and theirs.

    They’re taking advantage of the fact that we asked for the default win earlier because we KNEW they wouldn’t come as they stated by themselves, but they’re denying it.

    The irony is that, even though they’re denying the fact that they wouldn’t come and they are working to invalidate that win, they still didn’t show up in due time.

    How is it fair to NOT give us the default win since they (and yes you can doubt that) didn’t want to show up this night, and IN FACT they didn’t show up this night.

    I’m not looking for a default win ultimately, I’m looking for fairness. The team has been insulted and we’ve been cheated over, I refuse to admit any of their statement that are only aimed to discredit us.

    It looks like as if you’re looking for ANY little reason to blame us, when we were supposed to SIMPLY play a TF2 match, and one team didn’t show up, while notifying us they won’t because they would have liked to play on another date.

  41. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    No proof was given of any scheduling attempts. Nothing was posted on the matchpage prior to 20cet. Your status screenshot showed that you had 9 on, of which 8 people were on the server for half the time normally needed for a defaultwin – or less than that for most.

    How is it fair to not give you a default win? It doesn’t work like that. You have to show you deserved it, that you did everything necessary. We have not received that, and as such can not justify giving a default win.

  42. T0m.: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Grow up, and play the rematch. Stop whining about it.

  43. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:

    Thank you to the admins for reviewing this.

    MC Salo: I don’t know where you can even come up with all that. Firstly, there was no conversation with Tek as far as I know. Secondly, I didn’t even hear anything about a football match because well, I don’t watch football. I don’t know what you are going on about with that…
    And thirdly: I didn’t ask anyone to say anything. People who posted, did so because they wanted to.

    As far the whole argument about there being no friend requests, why would gubbins write on the match page ASKING for you guys to accept the request?? Did that not give you a clue that MAYBE we were trying to contact you? And did you not see the other part of us being ready??

    And why would you even lie on top of that all, by saying you waited 15 minutes. The screenshots and timestamps blatantly show you didn’t. We weren’t told about joining any server, because we were trying to contact your leader to arrange a server. Next thing we know, we have a default loss. Just admit you tried your best to sneak a default and you know it.

    I would also like to end this by saying, nobody from team punchline was involved in this really. The 3 members from punchline are just that, members. Flippy kindly asked me to go through what happened here with him, because he was completely unaware.

    18:18 – pLine Flippy: i dont want punchline to be implicated
    18:18 – pLine Flippy: btw
    18:18 – pLine Flippy: i guess you understand
    18:18 – pLine Flippy: i see smzi posting something about pline
    18:18 – pLine Flippy: but im ok with the fact that you guys can show your anger
    18:18 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: I understand, its just unfortunate you have 3 punchline members
    18:18 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: in the team
    18:19 – pLine Flippy: and we 3 just play as player
    18:19 – pLine Flippy: not as leader or whatever
    18:19 – pLine Flippy: so i want the things to be clear

    18:21 – pLine Flippy: thank you
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: anyway
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: it seems like some of us dont even want to play against you guys anymore
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: and some still want
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: so
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: …
    18:22 – pLine Flippy: i dont know what we should do
    18:22 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: Well, we just want to play
    18:22 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: thats all
    18:22 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: going for default wins
    18:22 – ²¹Swifty SNUGGLE ME IM FLUFFY ^^: is so lame
    18:23 – pLine Flippy: yeah i agree with that

  44. Obi: DA! said:

    “And why would you even lie on top of that all, by saying you waited 15 minutes. The screenshots and timestamps blatantly show you didn’t.”

    Here we go again :
    “A delay of 15 minutes for showing up for a match is allowed. If a team fails to have a complete team ready on the server 15 minutes after the match was supposed to start, the other team may claim a Default Win.”
    The screenshot was taken at 20:15. The game was supposed to begin at 20. There were conversations between Tek and Gubbins and Flippy and Gubbins. We knew you would never come. It’s just pure dishonesty. We never received friend requests (tek has to had him), here is the true lie.

  45. Russian Guyovich: (Surging Meat Cable) - [T-A!]LoS said:

    Please cast this rematch.

  46. payard: mLm said:

    “wow expected better behaviour from team punchline”

    Wooooooot? why are you talking about punchline? ok they’ve got 3 pLine plays on 9 (and to be honnest i don’t like some players in that highlander’s team). but 3 are not in this team so please…..stfu, and keep your fucking racist comments for yourslef. thank you :o)

  47. Si^: T2P - [PG] said:

    “Please cast this rematch.”

    If vanilla wants to we are happy to have it so. Talks of that happening anyway.

  48. Dak1ne said:

    I see many Racist comments. Nice community.

    “Your ancestors are smiling, the sniveling cowards”

    “go play in your french league

    go fuck with your own croissants”

    etc etc … i thought racism/xenophobia was not tolerated in the league…
    I guess i’m wrong.

  49. Beef: Dawson said:

    Have fun @ new default date!

  50. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 21:15
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  51. MC Salo: DA! said:

    2. Obi proposed to play at 27/04/2012 21:15, which was rejected
    3. Gubbins proposed to play at 26/04/2012 20:15, which was rejected
    4. Gubbins proposed to play at 26/04/2012 21:15, which was rejected
    5. Beef proposed to play at 26/04/2012 21:15, which was accepted

    *clap clap*

  52. steher said:

    default date ? lol

  53. Qdam said:

    What the actual dick nipple.

  54. Beef: Dawson said:

    we dont set def dates to friday if we can avoid it. 0 match comments. Its your own fault.

  55. .Bb: DA! said:

    0 match comments from the other team too retarded.

  56. Beef: Dawson said:

    Yes indeed. From both teams we got 2 option: Thursday & Friday. We don’t set default dates to friday if avoidable. So 1 choice left. If you didn’t want thursday you could have made a comment on the matchpage: “Thursday is not possible for us, these days are possible: x, x, x”. Problem solved.

    I hope you enjoyed todays lesson of how2etf2l!

  57. MC Salo: DA! said:

    Can you cite me the page from your 200 pages how2etf2L code where you explain that friday is THER FUCKING DAY WE AVOID?

    I can’t understand what’s your problem with us.
    We decline 2 different hours for thursday and you make it as the default date?

    You really should review your neutrality definition.
    And abouts comments, I just thought you didn’t read any since my questions had no answers.

  58. Beef: Dawson said:

    There is no hard rule for this except for common sense, you are a member at etf2l for almost 2 years, surely you have noticed there are always very few games played on friday and saturday, because people do other things on those days. When I first joined etf2l and did my first default dates they told me the priority for default dates is Sunday > Thursday > Tuesday > Monday/Wednesday > Friday > Saturday. I’m now quite experienced as an admin and have taught the same guidelines to other admins.

    I’m sorry if you think I was mocking you, that was not my intention. But I do not appreciate that you question my partiality in this matter.

    I quite literally stated when I announced the admin decision that we would read the comments on the matchpage very carefully. In fact we always do when we decide a default date. The conclusion for both teams after the whole mess with the first date should have been that communication is key, sadly both teams failed at that again. Which is a pitty and something you have nobody to blame but yourself.

  59. Beef: Dawson said:

    CanFo wrote a great little guide a while ago on how to get a good default date: http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-18475/?recent=336923

  60. Si^: T2P - [PG] said:

    as pointed out we kept proposing dates you rejected constantly and the default date is set to what we wanted anyway if there was a problem why not just say rather than all this cloak and danger stupidity.

    also talking on this match page is like throwing a bottle to sea and hoping for the best.

  61. Si^: T2P - [PG] said:

    “cloak and danger stupidity.” How ironic xD

  62. Flippy: LEGO - DA! said:

    Gubbins and I talked, the match will be played Tuesday 1th May because it was impossible for us to play it tomorrow.

  63. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - Ascent said:

    apologize to team punchline , thought you were the teamleaders of this

    apparantly you arent

    ps: ez win parrot gapers

  64. Gubbins: T O R T - hi im dog said:

    Agreed to play Tues 1st May

  65. Si^: T2P - [PG] said:

    <3 smzi

  66. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:

    fairplay award for parrot gapers for allowing change of dates after default hunt??

  67. Pynklùùùnningen: CotC said:

    Gape 2012

  68. Pynklùùùnningen: CotC said:

    Qdam: DA! said:

    April 23rd, 2012 at 15:09

    What the actual dick nipple.


  69. Gubbins: T O R T - hi im dog said:


  70. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:


  71. Flippy: LEGO - DA! said:

    gubbins = gay

  72. Setlet said:

    epic we got the silver trophy without actually winning any matches

  73. Alx: SNSD-jjang ♥ said:

    Reading through these comments – wow. Go Gapers.

  74. quintosh: T9! - CORE said:


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