Season 10!

Division 4e


Date Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by Mox (Team Memento Black)



4 - 1

[Screenshots: A B ]



5 - 3

[Screenshots: A B ]

Poland Third World Country vs Finland Team Memento Black
6 - 0

SteamID Screenshots: A B C D


Team Memento Black (6) Mox, lhs, Jiikky, Dyna, paju, ZartZu
Third World Country (6) Master, Tomek, Lawi, 11, Cizeer, Drozdzers
Unrostered (7) Abra, Skillz, EDisan, kensi., fisher, Warden, Santtu


  1. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    Guys when can you play?

  2. Drozdzers: MJ23 said:

    maybe wednesday 20;30 cet?

  3. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    we will look forward for that.

  4. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    next wednesday at 20:30

  5. MayDay: eehq said:

    ScS go go :D

  6. tomzi said:

    EK this is your match 2ez! :P

  7. MInd: Lutunen - [hePPa] said:

    ZartZu going huge

  8. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    Mind en voi kiittää sua tarpeeksi, mutta kiitos kun autoit etsinnöis :D

  9. Typious: said:

    good luck Ek!

  10. Live said:

    Powodzenia, polskich przyjaciół

  11. paju said:


  12. ZartZu: [ewe] said:


  13. L1H1S: slc. - HHH said:


  14. Mox said:


  15. Dyna: Memento said:


  16. ZartZu: [ewe] said:


  17. Dyna: Memento said:

    So guys we have to own you another time so you can rage more…..? You think you can handle Div3 if we own you x))

  18. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    I try to be calm for you, but that kind of behavior in etf2l is really low. Well let’s replay!

  19. Tomek: 8===D said:

    we didn’t get promoted already

  20. Forsak3n: S said:

    The Results were cancelled because one of the teams used an unaccepted merc.

    This Match will have to be replayed before 18/12/2011.
    If you don’t Schedule the Date before 11/12/2011, the default date will be set by us.

    Looking forward to seeing this match being played. :)

  21. Jiikky: HHH said:

    Sigh. Well no problem, we’ll play it again if everyone’s time needs to be wasted.

  22. Setlet said:

    Lol käytittekste Santtua merccinä? :D Ei varmana olis hyväksyny nää teidä mannevihut.

  23. Tomek: 8===D said:

    read rules and don’t waste other players’ time pl0x

  24. paju said:

    Ei ole santusta kyse. Forsaakkeni admini kusetti meitä, joten pelataan peli sitte uusiks.

  25. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Sunday, 18 December 2011, 20:00
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  26. Mox said:

    You guys ok with L1H1S as our merc?

  27. Cizeer said:

    My team is not agree on L1h1s

  28. jörb: hood said:

    It’s your call but I can’t help wondering why wouldn’t you accept L1H1S as a “merc”.

    gl Memento.

  29. Dyna: Memento said:

    Memento Dyna: Hello
    Memento Dyna:
    Memento Dyna: Can we use this guy as a merc?
    Tomek: we don’t allow any mercs
    Memento Dyna: Your acting like a adult
    Memento Dyna: Srsly
    Tomek: look.
    Tomek: we don’t need to be promoted.
    Tomek: probably we dont will play in any other season
    Tomek: but we don’t like you
    Tomek: and if theres any chance
    Tomek: for that you will don’t get promotion
    Tomek: we will use it
    Tomek: :-)
    Memento Dyna: That somekind of polish mindfuck thinking?:>
    Tomek: maybe
    Memento Dyna: Wow….
    Memento Dyna: How old are y?
    Memento Dyna: 13?
    Memento Dyna: 12?
    Tomek: yes
    Tomek: 13 and a half
    Tomek: :)))
    Memento Dyna: Oh well…
    Tomek: last time you just show us
    Tomek: what fags are you
    Memento Dyna: We just have to own some polski kurwakurwa players:)))))))
    Tomek: and we don’t will allow any mercs.
    Tomek: thanks.
    Memento Dyna: IT WAS ADMINS FAULT!
    Memento Dyna: BLAME ADMINS!
    Tomek: not my business
    Memento Dyna: Not mine either.
    Tomek: so good night. bye
    Tomek is now Offline.

  30. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    Poles… i just love them <33

  31. Typious: said:

    Memento Black broke rules and now they are butthurt and want to break rules again. ^^

  32. Tomek: 8===D said:

    what a tf2 drama, rly.

  33. Jojipo: slc. - sisu said:

    Not exactly very mature acting from Dyna either. If the other team is not willing to accept any mercs you have to respect their opinion as well. Insulting over such reason just shows immaturity in my books.

  34. Clark: SDCK said:

    Both scs and memento are acting fucking immature, seriously.

  35. Tomek: 8===D said:

    hah-hah, dudes, you’re so funny : D

  36. RazorsEdge: trick17 said:

    lol. It’s just unfair to say “we dont allow any mercs.” Really sad to see how important fairplay is…

  37. Tomek: 8===D said:

    they weren’t fair last time, now we will. simple?
    feel my foot of justice.

  38. Dyna: Memento said:

    It wasnt about fairness. It was about admin who did give us wrong information

  39. tomzi said:

    oh well, gl Memento anyway ^^ and I totally agree on immaturnes of both sides.

  40. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    ok gg. 5vs6 at snake and 4vs6 at obscure… send all demos to mox

  41. Mox said:

    5v6, Snakewater 1-4 for ScS, Obscure 3-5 for ScS.
    We request demos of each player who played on ScS team during the maps. Uploading the scores now

  42. Cizeer said:

    The opposing team can request demos up to 48 hours after the match was scheduled to start. They can request demos from up to 2 players for each map.


  43. Mox said:

    Demos of Tomek and Master then, thanks :)

  44. Masther: Actimel said:

    2.4 Every player has to record Demos

    Demos can be requested by an admin or any player of the opposing team.
    Admins may request demos up to 14 days after the match was played. They can request as many demos as they require.
    The opposing team can request demos up to 48 hours after the match was scheduled to start. They can request demos from up to 2 players for each map.
    A player whose demos have been requested has 72 hours to upload the demo, starting from the time the request was made.
    The opposing team can request demos up to 48 hours after the match was scheduled to start. They

    So decide which of our players should upload demo.

    We want to see every single demo of player Jiikky on map obscure. He rejoined some times so we want, to upload the demo of every second he was in game.


  45. Mox said:

    Uploaded scores. gg ScS, although you might want to hold your demoman a bit instead of letting him rush at me.

  46. Mox said:

    Also, L1H1S didnt play in the match, even though he shows up in the list up there^

  47. Masther: Actimel said:

    Ok and as 2nd demo of this game we want you to upload Dyna’s game

  48. paju said:


  49. Jiikky: HHH said:

    The last time I joined was about 5 seconds before match ended, and I didn’t manage to record those last 5 seconds. I’m not exactly sure how many seconds it was but you can check from Dyna’s demo. Sue me.

  50. Mox said:

    Dyna’s demos – Snakewater – Obscure

  51. Mox said:

    Whoops. Vice versa the links^

  52. Masther: Actimel said:

  53. Jiikky: HHH said:

    I checked Dyna’s demo, I didn’t record the last 12 seconds of the game when I joined back.

  54. Tomek: 8===D said:

  55. rarecandy said:


  56. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    Real sad from

  57. Trane said:

    Hate the players?

    Hate the game more like.

  58. Tomek: 8===D said:

    you’re guys irrational, especially admins (greets Buffalo)

  59. Jiikky: HHH said:

    Now it’s Tomek vs ETF2L? Anyway good luck with that.

  60. Drozdzers: MJ23 said:


  61. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    Irrational for thinking you lack sportsmanship because you don’t allow a merc in a playoff match, citing the reason that you want to fuck them over as much as possible? Ok.

  62. Drozdzers: MJ23 said:

    its all start when admin allowed memento used merc. BTW WTF ADMIN WHO DONT KNOW RULES?

  63. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    He knows the rules, there was a miscommunication. Forsak3n thought Dyna was talking about the other playoff, where they were allowed by the enemy. Hence he assumed both mercs were allowed so when Dyna asked Forsak3n said so.

  64. tomzi said:

    I think yo uare talking about dyna ? :P

  65. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    You’re both finnish, same thing. Didn’t know who it was anymore. :D

  66. Tomek: 8===D said:

    fraud attempt huh?

  67. snade: Suoli - moog said:

    Now this is how the scene should look like, keep up the good work guys!!

  68. Luzik: Suoli - moog said:

    Now this is starting to look like cod or some other game which has awful scene. My point being that tf2 is moving in the right direction to become an e-sport

  69. Mars: dmn said:

    really funny

  70. Caeli: doggo - #T4F said:

    Default win to Memento Black please, ScS doesn’t deserve this win.

  71. Mox said:

    Just dropping in to point your attention on the score screenshots A on both maps. Would’ve played with L1H1S again if they had allowed it :)

  72. Masther: Actimel said:

    Not informing opp. team about new player deserves def loss, even if they asked admin.
    We did not agree for a merc just becuase of that.
    So talking shit about the rest is your only opinion ;]
    They had 1st chance when we draw 3-3 on granary and obscure.

    6vs6 with their 1st rooster

    In last game they could use his last confirmed player, but they didnt.
    Look at our squad and you can see many players registered in our team, cause when we dont have 6 players from main rooster we can use the other, even if better one can not play.

    So Marry Xmas

  73. Jiikky: HHH said:

    I don’t believe it really matters to you even if we used a new player without asking for a permission (who is div5 skill btw), it’s not your real principle; you just didn’t want us to win as Tomek stated earlier while chatting with Dyna, which makes you fundamentally follow the rules, but only when it benefits your team. If you had won the first play-off we played, you wouldn’t have given a dog shit about us using a new player without asking for permission, because it wouldn’t have mattered since you had already won, but since you lost that match you wanted to use every bit of chance you have to win/not make us win, you made such a big deal about it.

    Too long didn’t read; you wouldn’t really care about that rule if it didn’t benefit you somehow. You’re just using it hypocritically to benefit you.

    I wouldn’t have cared about a little mistake like forgetting to ask permission for a merc if you had done that mistake. I understand that human nature is forgetful and we do mistakes. As long as the opponent’s intentions are acceptable and fair, little mistakes like that don’t matter.

    Also if you were talking about using NiKoRo as our 6th player, you see he’s inactive right? He currently doesn’t have time to play. That’s why there is a possiblity of using mercs for christ’s sake; not everyone in the team can always be able to play in a scheduled match, but this shouldn’t be a problem because the possibility of using a merc/mercs. Apparently it was for you.

  74. ZartZu: [ewe] said:

    Amen for that!!

  75. Drozdzers: MJ23 said:


  76. Jiikky: HHH said:

    Actually I’m not raging, I’m just expressing my opinion to hopefully start a reasonable discussion.

  77. Drozdzers: MJ23 said:

    Why you still discusion about this? ITS end and its your fault if you dont know rules (admin too dont know its sad). You gonna cry on all etf2l when someone dont allow you merc. We just use rules, next time before accepting something just read this thx.

  78. Jiikky: HHH said:

    Also in my opinion the rule that the opponent team doesn’t have to accept a merc is incompetent. It should be in the form “A team is allowed to use up to two (2) mercs if they inform the opponent team about these players. The opponent team doesn’t have to allow the use of these mercs, but there MUST be valid reasoning behind that decision.” For example your reasoning being that you don’t want us a chance to win is not valid from my point of view. An example of valid reasoning is that the suggested merc plays in a higher skill level.

  79. Tomek: 8===D said:

  80. Jiikky: HHH said:

    Ok we don’t have to discuss this anymore, but my point is: ScS still followed the rules by not accepting any mercs because they want to lower our chances to win. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. If admins like Buffalo Bill don’t agree with ScS’s decision (me neither), the fault is in the rules and I have just offered a modification.

  81. Jiikky: HHH said:

    I intended to write “I think that’s a bad thing” instead of “I don’t think that’s a bad thing”.

  82. Masther: Actimel said:

    You had right to asked us about merc, you havet done that , so we played for fun.
    we had right to not allowing a merc. And we just did it.

    Rules can’t be changed during game and of course you can vote for changes in next season.

    I think we can still get 1st fair play prize.,r:1,s:0

  83. Mox said:

    @Tomek, good song :3

  84. Mox said:

    as for Masther, do you want the logs about me asking one of the admins about the merc-side of the match? add in steam, not going to post it around in public

  85. Masther: Actimel said:

    no i dont

  86. Tomek: 8===D said:

    Merry Christmas!

  87. Mox said:

    merry xmas :)

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