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After we played our first tiebreakers from the 1st opponents + having to play a ~30minute golden cap (3 golden captures) we were ready to face our opponents project 01 for the next tiebreaker game.

However, project 01 could not show up as they could not play at 21:45 CET. Fine, they do not show up, we get the default win, right?

RIGHT?

….

Well no.
Project 01 gets the default win instead with the reason that WE were not there when THEY were prepared. (We were STILL playing our tiebreaker with the first opponent at that moment, just to clarify)

No hate towards the very honorable team project 01 but my anger is pointed towards the administrators from the European Team Fortress 2 League. They used faulty rules, and somewhat litterally just flipped us the bird.

ETF2L has not agreed on a match with project 01 this evening or tomorrow and neither they have chosen to compensate for the damage causing our team.

I will post the message Deox got from one admin.

ETF2L, I am VERY disappointed on you.

[no posting admin logs]

Welcome to every cup run by etf2l ever

The screens we sent to the admins:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjw7p5bvz6o6vdu/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202014-09-15%2022.04.48.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvm4njtbdcxo37k/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202014-09-15%2022.04.37.png?dl=0

And the ones to blame are both teams playing and the people on the stream, how would it ever make sense to use a timelimit for the golden cap and then just go play another.
From other point of view, golden caps only make sense on knockout stages, why can’t people just draw a match?

Edit to answer Alfie: we were watching the stream and I said it there, we waited but when the third golden cap was starting I was simply mad.

Quoted from Scissors

It’s an unfortunate situation, but if the rules had been followed, we wouldn’t have had this problem to begin with. No matter what, simply just letting the 10 minute timer run out twice in a row without doing anything whatsoever, is pretty lame. Especially considering that it was being casted. Atleast sideshow and turbotabs kept us entertained by dicussing fashion.

There was no rule regarding this type of situation. That’s the problem.

Im glad that there’s Timelimit, else we would see that 1st GC going forever

Seagulls had a Sniper, so it was kindaaa 6v5 if you would’ve pushed properly, or just let a roamer suicide for a pick/force, you wouldnt have lost anything anyway, they would push with Uber, yours would be later, it would be 5v5 (excluding sniper)

Imagine i52 matches having the same situation, it wouldnt be interesting

Oxy that is usually the case but today they changed the rules for today

Rules are the same as during Group Stages, with one exception: Golden Caps are limited to 10 minutes! Tiebreaker games may also be rescheduled if both teams agree.

So this ruleset was the cause of the problem!

Quoted from Meeto

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There was no rule regarding this type of situation. That’s the problem.

According to the admin I spoke with, the old GC rules applies for cups, since there is a time-table to follow.

Quoted from Scissors

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According to the admin I spoke with, the old GC rules applies for cups, since there is a time-table to follow.

You say that scissors that it was said to you but never was this stated publicly in the post about the logjam cup – nowhere does it say that along with the rules stated in the logjam posts that any rules from previous cups are to be included.