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Quoted from freshmeatt

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You certainly do not understand what you are talking about. Please consider rethinking the definition of ‘esports’, answering yourself what makes a game suitable for calling playing it ‘esports’, what concepts does the game design process revolve around when it comes to make the game suitable for ‘esports’, then, when you actually come to a reasonable conclusion, please reconsider both abandoning the idea or asking the devs directly yourself about the project. And for the love of God, if someone is pathetic here, it’s you, trying to be all high and righteous now – stop doing that.

I somehow doubt that when Counter-Strike or Quake were made their objective was to become huge competitive games. It’s just that some People saw the potential and(with a little support) made the best of what they had. I’m pretty sure that if the “Valve doesn’t love us” attitude was ditched, 6v6 TF2 could flourish. It’s going pretty well atm also. Just check out the prizes from various LANs and competitions. Sure it ain’t 1 million dollars per tournament, but it’s slowly getting there*

*may or may not get to 1 million dollars, per se.

Freshmeatt, you certainly know much better than me that TF2 6v6 isn’t balanced, has a small skill/teamplay roof, is not suitable for matches nor lans… But maybe are you right, this cartoon-designed game can only bring fun ? Are we playing 6v6 wich is only an ffa mode ? Maybe has this game a hudge part of random…

If these points were right, we wouldn’t allways see the same top teams winning the prizes.

Seriously I could anderstand your point of view only if you’d tell me that you DON’T want to play TF2 seriously. Because we can, as much as a lot of ridiculous sports.

You were talking about a TFPro. Why do this ? just go playing ffa and have some fun with your friends, that’s what was TF2 made for ! I tell you that without hate or anything !

Sorry for the “righteous” way of writting, maybe should I do like a lot of people are doing there –> make fun of someone, spam, troll… that’s funny but please tell me I’m more relevant here than the guy with his green lighter…

ups, if you are totally right then why doing competition on a mode is dumb ?

Quoted from Greg2fram

ups, if you are totally right then why doing competition on a mode is dumb ?

Totally right about what? About the obvious catering to pub players? It’s like you wanted to answer to someone else’s message, but typed in my nickname by mistake.

Just read the first two replies you’ve got, counters any argument you have (not that you’ve brought any valid-ones). A mod will accomplish nothing, and cut any possible inflow of new players into the competitive scene (and there was an inflow due to the highlander tournaments I think, which are crucial to this community if it wants to have a bright shiny future).

Quoted from freshmeatt

Consider an extreme, imagine TF2 becomes as popular amongst both players and potential organizations as, for example, Starcraft II. What do you get? Loads of teams, loads of LANs, loads of prize money. Cool! On the other hand, you get all the drama, all the technical difficulties regarding getting a chance to attend the said LANs, shitloads of people, who will never get to the top because they think pretending is better, as well as anything you could sum up with a single word – commercialism. That’s a no-no for me personally.

Are you honestly saying it wouldn’t be better if tf2 was as big as sc2?

I have a mild form of colour blindness apparently. As in, one of the walls in my office is dark grey, but everyone else says it’s brown. I can definitely tell the difference between red/blue/green though.
My uncle is completely colour blind, but he says it only bothers him when he has to pick out an orange marble out of a pile of red ones, for example. He can still see the difference between colours on, for example, a traffic light. He may not perceive the colours as anyone else would, but he can tell they are different.
Strange how this works.

Anyway, I do sometimes find it difficult to see players on certain maps, especially if it’s in a darker area and the player’s colour blends in well with the surroundings. Personally I wouldn’t at all mind having bright green opponents. Or more importantly, bright coloured team mates (über making your screen go blue doesn’t help in finding blue players around you..)

ell(link), I totally agree with you, a mode have to be customizable. I was just explaining why I would choose green models. If you are color-blind, you could choose white or yellow ones…

TIL most of ETF2L is colourblind.

Quoted from Spike Himself

I never understood though why ne blu has brown avatars.

It’s because we’re shit