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Quoted from Spike Himself

Valve did give us mp_tournament, whitelists, class limits, in-game items as league prizes, they participate in showmatches (including robin walker himself), ..

To suggest they don’t care about the competitive scene is a bit silly.

Also this whole promode thing is proposed as if it’s 15 mouseclicks and voila the whole game is changed. Sadly that’s not how it works ^^

right !
They were working on a project with TF2 competitive players supposed to be tf2 beta…remember?
this game is getting worse and worse update after update…
Freezing and so many FPS loss……..

Quoted from Spike Himself

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Yep, and that beta project still exists, but nobody cares to actually play it so there’s not much valve can do!

Valve never listened when people did, either. If that’s not demotivating, I don’t know what is.

Quoted from octochris

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Valve never listened when people did, either. If that’s not demotivating, I don’t know what is.

They have decisions to make based on the feedback they get. You should know better than this :)

The question is does anyone have a build that old?

Also, is that what they did with CS promod? Tf2 was my first comp game so idk how cs promod came about

Quoted from octochris

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And they made a grand total of… oh, let’s see, zero.

I liked skyride’s view on this topic.
(A post not about highlighters THO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM)

It’s not in valves best interest to promote 6 v 6 play.

Short version
Highlander is better for them to promote as it promotes the use of all classes. (look at tf2 blog more interest in highlander games than 6 v 6s shows its pretty clear)

(can’t remember the whole of Adams point)

Quoted from octochris

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And they made a grand total of… oh, let’s see, zero.

back in april they tried to nerf the equaliser by making two different equalisers, one that did the damage and one that had the speed. The only feedback they got werr confused pubbers saying the eq wasnt op and didnt need a nerf. Honestly, with the amount of absolute shit they have to wade through on the beta forums you cant blame them for being a bit apprehensive with implementing every change we ever mention.

Quoted from freshmeatt

In case some of you haven’t noticed, TF2 is free now. Go grab an old build from somewhere, rename the package to tf2promod.rar and there you have it.

Quoted from Enef

The question is does anyone have a build that old?

It wouldn’t work unless you want to play single player or run “cracked” servers (which I guess is a viable option apart from the complete lack of VAC). TF2 may be free but it’s still a steam game that steam keeps updated.
It’s also a huge hassle to get an old version working, more so than getting used to the vanilla ruleset, from a pubber’s point of view ))