Season 9

Premier Division

Week 2

Date Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by GeaR (Marco FTW)

This match does not count as one of the teams dropped from this competition.

Default Win

Germany Marco FTW vs International Monster Munch
6 - 0

Active Wildcards:

SteamID Screenshots: A

Players

Marco FTW (5) GeaR, basH., numlocked, mvp., schocky

57 Comments

  1. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    Sunday, 3.4. 21:15 CEST ?

  2. joske: RaWr :: said:

    accepted, will speak to etf2l admins about a server (we usually have some problems)

  3. joske: RaWr :: said:

    connect 85.236.109.36:27515; password etf2l0no

  4. sunday: aqeze said:

    stv?

  5. screwy said:

    stv, pleazzz

  6. Mike: TEZC said:

    marco going to crush joske

  7. Crasp: (Legend) - BACΩN | - бекон said:

    STV should be 85.236.102.65:27315. We can add more slots if necessary.

  8. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    we will probably play one map on our server, and one on theirs. depends on how good the server is.

  9. Wildcard said:

    A wildcard has been taken for this match by Button Bashers.
    You must reschedule and play this game before 24/04/2011.

  10. doks said:

    oh come ooon… :/

  11. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    http://www.team-dignitas.net/2011/4/10/alienware-cup-3-tf2-brackets/11528/

  12. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Looks like BB were too busy getting raped (eating mustard) to play tonight, look forward to playing them next week sometime.

    xoxo gossip girl

  13. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    looks like we got some cash and you dont, poor kiddo.

  14. joske: RaWr :: said:

    We did get cash, but unlike you we don’t play TF2 to fund our mustard addiction.. Anyway on topic, we’re postponing this game till vlad is back from China on the 2nd of next month.

  15. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    Please remember that the match deadline for this match is next sunday.
    Try to schedule it asap or we might set a default date.
    Thanks =)

  16. joske: RaWr :: said:

    We’ve already spoke to Cras about this CanFo, he said that with the drops etc it would be ok if we posponed all our games until vlad returned.
    Thanks =)

  17. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Crasp* postpone* sorry i am a big retard

  18. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    you didnt ask me tho joske. and we wont delay the game any more.

  19. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Wednesday, 20 April 2011, 21:15
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  20. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Session Start: Mon Apr 11 22:37:18 2011
    Session Ident: Crasp
    [22:37] Session Ident: Crasp (QuakeNet, joskee) ([email protected])
    [22:37] Hi joskee
    [22:37] How can I help you?
    01[22:37] heya man
    01[22:37] uhmm
    01[22:37] bb wildcarded yesterday
    01[22:38] we have Epsilon in ESL (tomorrow), and they’ve said they can’t play on wednesday or thursday
    01[22:38] vlad goes away for 2 weeks on sunday to china so we’re not able to play till he’s back
    01[22:38] is it ok if we pospone till he’s back?
    [22:39] just the bb match?
    01[22:39] uhmm
    01[22:39] yep
    [22:39] around what date will that be
    [22:40] the wildcard covers it up to the 24th
    01[22:40] Monday the 2nd mate
    [22:41] i assume all your other etf2l matches will need the same?
    01[22:41] Yeah unfortunatly :(
    01[22:41] really sucks
    [22:41] it’s probably fine for the later matches
    [22:42] but this match was supposed to be played over the last 2 weeks
    01[22:42] Yeah I know :(
    01[22:42] bb have rescheduled twice :P
    01[22:42] hehe
    [22:43] since you don’t have matches for weeks 3 and 5 it isn’t as bad as i thought
    01[22:43] ahh thats cool
    [22:44] worst case, both teams will receive a minor warning for the bb match
    01[22:44] ok cool
    01[22:44] thanks man
    [22:44] no problem

  21. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    server suggestions? wanna try that french server again?

  22. joske: RaWr :: said:

    This won’t be played tonight

  23. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    so defwin?

  24. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Nah we’ll play it when vlad is back, it’s np. I’m out tonight and the other guys are playing the england game i think

  25. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    it actually is a problem. its tonight or defwin, make your choice.

  26. joske: RaWr :: said:

    http://www.bloggerheads.com/can_weblogs/images/mm_mike_original.jpg

    Speak to Crasp if you have any more problems/questions

  27. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    i guess you’re the one that should talk to crasp.

    that game tonite is on, with or without you.

  28. Crasp: (Legend) - BACΩN | - бекон said:

    Default dates can only be changed if one team uses a wildcard or if both teams agree to play on another date.

    Since the match was already wildcarded, it would need both teams to agree on a new date. Monster Munch asked for the admins’ permission to play this at a later date, but they don’t seem to have proposed any dates since last week.

    Joske, you had permission to schedule this for when vlad is back, but we can’t see any attempt to arrange a date with bb, so there is no reason not to play this match at the default date. I can understand, and I apologise for not being clear, if you feel hard done by for this.

  29. joske: RaWr :: said:

    vlad isn’t back till the 2nd of next month like I told you (see logs above).. what is the rush to get a date arranged if he isn’t back for another 12 days? If you want I’m sure we can schedule a date after the 2nd with BB if you really need a fixed day

  30. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    no, you cannot.

    less flaming, more matcharranging. now it’s too late.

    a last advice: contact your next opponents to make sure you play them after 2nd of may.

  31. AcidReniX: RaWr :: said:

    I like how BB can take a wildcard when the match doesn’t suit them, but on a weekend of a prominent UK LAN, we won’t be allowed to? So actually.. we might as well look through the league time table for when a default date will be on a LAN weekend that our opponents are attending, and deliberately wildcard that match, forcing the opposing team to play on a default date that they can’t. Bad system ;)

    Anyway, the admin has agreed. The admin did not mention that the game must be scheduled at a certain time. If admins are going to simply go against what they say because an admin in another team doesn’t like it, then you can consider us ‘dropped’ from this league.

  32. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    yep, arx. cya

    if you really think its anyone elses fault but yours makes you look stupid :(
    maybe you should check for problems within your own team first.

  33. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Give me a message on irc, steam or on here when you’re ready to schedule a date to play this mvp. 3rd May is good for us, how about you guys?

  34. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    how about 20th of april?

  35. hoppi: TIDS said:

    http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2483/1303403726740.jpg

  36. Crasp: (Legend) - BACΩN | - бекон said:

    Any more posts not in English and/or from users not involved in this match and/or anything else that I have to delete will find a temp ban coming their way.

  37. harbleu: Truls! - dstry said:

    lol what are you faggots trying to do?

  38. harbleu: Truls! - dstry said:

    also yea we’re dropping if this stands. gg

  39. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    your regrets and trying to get in contact with me might come too late, ever considered that?

    me and my players tried to contact you, also i proposed dates via etf2l.

    if you want to drop because you cant play by the rules, i really dont care harbleu. it’s not like we wouldnt have allowed any mercs. grow up and get rid of the “i dont give a fuck” mentality.

  40. joske: RaWr :: said:

    i have no regrets about this, the game will be rescheduled whether you like it or not, stop qqing and arrange a date with us.

  41. joske: RaWr :: said:

    ps; stop eating so much mustard

  42. Ronny: marco - nice-servers.co said:

    joske, you already cost our whole team two evenings without showing up in both ETF2L and ESL. Marco tried to arrange a date with your team but all we got was a “i don’t give a fuck”. So it’s just your teams fault. Now, “we don’t give a fuck”.

    Marco has tried it several times to contact you guys. Marco did the official contact way via the ETF2l site which you ignored. It’s just your fault. So, welcome to prem, get used to it.

    This game won’t be rescheduled otherwise we’re dropping. Get some professionalism to the league and drop the unreliable teams.

  43. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Whining about professionalism then threatening to drop from the league lol :D

  44. basH: hf said:

    did joske really just flamed Ronny ? did he ?!

  45. joske: RaWr :: said:

    Give me a message on irc, steam or on here when you’re ready to schedule a date to play this mvp. 3rd May is good for us, how about you guys?

  46. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    stop begging, its over.

  47. joske: RaWr :: said:

    mvp.: (League Admin)

  48. Poop: TSUN~ - [PG] said:

    gg!

  49. harbleu: Truls! - dstry said:

    when do you guys want to play this?

  50. skeej: (ETF2L Donator) - UbeR | - Fe | said:

    stv demo?

  51. irfx: EPA said:

    fairplay award for bb!

  52. Ronny: marco - nice-servers.co said:

    ppl claiming us will just understand it when they’re in the same situation trying to contact another team multiple times with the only answer “I dont give a fuck”, wasting a lot of time with these guys and waiting on the server and they’re not showing up.

    fairplay to Monster Munch! oh, they’re folded completly. what a suprise. Maybe thats the reason they didn’t show up multiple times? Or did they fold because of this def-loss? Then just “lol”.

  53. AcidReniX: RaWr :: said:

    Hmm, we’ve folded? News to me.

    We have dropped from the league. Admins tell us we can reschedule and then suddenly revert their decision / invent an imaginary time frame that it needs to be rescheduled by, without telling us about it. We have our own opinion on why this is the case, and based on that opinion, we have decided we no longer wish to play in ETF2L.

    Also, attempting to force a game to be played on 1) a UK LAN weekend, 2) Easter Sunday.. it was pretty obvious that this was not going to be played.

  54. xzr said:

    HAHA HEY MONSTERCOCKMUNCHERS, DOES THIS SEEM FAMILIAR AT ALL?

    I guess getting your own medicine back at you sucks some serious balls

  55. AcidReniX: RaWr :: said:

    And no suprise… Xzr is being dumb… again.

    The admins informed us that we could reschedule.
    The admins then decide to change their minds.

    If the admins told us that we couldn’t reschedule from the start, there would be no problems here. We couldn’t have played the match on the date, so we would take the default loss. It’s how the rules work, and we wouldn’t complain about that. This wasn’t the case however, we got the conformation, we even mentioned the date that we could play after, so the admins were fully aware of the situation and agreed to it.

    We would have just taken the default loss and continued to play in the league, but after the turnaround, we decided we no longer wish to participate. Just to stress it again… we have no problem with the team claiming a default win against us. This is what we have the problem with:

    “you had permission to schedule this for when vlad is back, but we can’t see any attempt to arrange a date with bb, so there is no reason not to play this match at the default date.”

    We had the permission, but there wasn’t much point in scheduling a game to be played in several weeks time, so of course we made no effort to schedule it. We were also not told at any point that we needed to reschedule the game by a certain date, just told we had permission to do so.

    It’s done now and the decisions have been made. Gratz and good luck in the rest of the season!

  56. Dummy said:

    cool story, everybody

  57. polis said:

    The Season 9 Fallacy

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