Highlander Challenge Cup Stage

Round 1

Date Scheduled:
Results submitted:
by ETF2L Staff

Default Win

Lithuania Kiberzona Highlander Strip vs Germany Ins Gesicht
0 - 6

SteamID Screenshots: A

Players

Ins Gesicht (6) Marquis Posa, Puzzles, HereisEMIman, SwitchBack, Chop Suey, pixelx3
Kiberzona Highlander Strip (2) Kelmas, Newlife
Unrostered (3) eSky, Aibo999, p1nky

Warnings

Demos

  • Map (): First Person [Pruned] by flupschy (264 Downloads)

38 Comments

  1. flupschy said:

    Hi,
    we would like to fight you on Sunday 21st, 15.00-21.00 CET
    or if you like, I’ll try to arrange it for Sunday 14th.
    Wednesday and Thursday should be free too.

  2. Dauk said:

    21th 18;00 cet is ok

  3. flupschy said:

    We want to see the demo from eSky, your sniper. There was a strange kill by him against me, the scout.
    Lucky, skilled or cheated. I want to see it from his point of view pls.

  4. O_oPs* said:

    Default win hunters…

  5. eSky said:

    Boo!

  6. Aibo999: mamka said:

    You loose KZ win, you know this.. Third merc without permission is not a big mistake. KZ can play again if you think that third person from other team was the reason of your fail :D But you want to go by easiest way.. I hate default hunters. Shame on you.

  7. bHilL: TCT² said:

    Omg… loosers :/ Shame on you Ins Gesicht Team…

  8. flupschy said:

    Rules are Rules! If you wanna play with eSky get him into your team or at least ask your opponent. We know it’s not cool but anyway.. Rules are Rules. Sorry for you was a great game.

  9. Leptop said:

    It was a real nice game and we arent DW hunters. you just have to know that. Gl for the future!

  10. Kelmas: KZ said:

    OMFG losser! You lost ffs we won so go the f*ck away we should play in round 2 not you guys

  11. Puzzles said:

    Cry some more

  12. RaCio: GoT² said:

    Kiberzona stated they wanted to use 3 merc players when they joined the server. At that time it became Ins Gesicht’s responsibility to reply. The only thing said was “no worries”. Due to this miscommunication we can not grant a default win. The original results from the game will stand, hopefully the best team will proceed in the cup.

    We’re very sorry for any confusion caused.

    Greetings,
    Racio

  13. RaCio: GoT² said:

    As a sidenote: I’d suggest players from Kiberzona try to behave and keep a friendly attitude in the future. Consider yourselves warned for above flames.

    Please view things from each other’s perspective. Miscommunication is always an unfortunate thing to happen.

  14. flupschy said:

    aha… next time I immediately start recording! We waited 10 min on your server for you! …And you aaalwaaays play with eSky, who is on the other KiberzonaTeam….
    Is there any Screenshot? Any Proof, RaCio? KZHStrip never made us aware of their friends from Chior Tai. I dont believe them.
    But ok, I dont care. I’ll have an eye on you guys…
    Of course you were better, but was it your team?

  15. Marquis Posa: gesicht! said:

    yeah i would like to see that proof too, showing us and them together with the “no worries” statement AND proof of the statement that you wanted to use 3 mercs.

    if theres no proof i dont seea reason for why the default win shouldnt count.

  16. Rabb1T: SnG - SnG said:

    Cry more default hunters?
    Plan – To avoid strong enemy : FAILED

  17. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    http://localhostr.com/files/dbDQPcN/capture.png
    “sry for being late :) we will have a 3rd replacement”
    “no worries”

    This could be interpreted as if you approved the merc.

  18. flupschy said:

    biggest miscommunication ever :D okay we should look who is joining… but its okay.
    ZakMcRofl said “Nor worries” because u were late :( not because of the mercs… but that doesnt matter now

    Good Luck for the next round Kiberzona ;) and bye

  19. Marquis Posa: gesicht! said:

    “This could be interpreted as if you approved the merc.”
    this was obviously for the “being late” part, i think even Kiberzona knows that, but wont admit it of course.

    also Zak isnt even a teamleader and the rest of our team wasnt aware of that statment, hence why me and flup wanted to see proof of that.

    so i demand a rematch, to find the real winner once and for all.
    and no, if that happens we wont allow a third merc, since we think they arent just helping out – they are actually valuable players of ANOTHER team.

    i just dont think its fair to use parts of other teams to increase the quality of your own team.
    once you have to play against one of the teams you used mercs from, you will have to play with your real team anyway.

    so we lost, because we miscommunicated?
    you could as well they Kiberzona misinterpretated.

    from what i see a rematch is the only solution to this dilemma.

    also on a side note, we would still like to see the sniper demo.

    thanks for reading,
    Posa

  20. flupschy said:

    i agree with posa
    rematch on viaduct on sunday 18.oo CET would be great
    hmm..
    watch my demo – tick: 49000

  21. ZakMcRofl said:

    I cannot believe you are taking my comment out of context. I was replying to the being late part, not the playing with replacements.

  22. ZakMcRofl said:

    Let me elabotate:
    1) I am not team leader
    2) I made my statement in regards to the being late part
    3) A replacement is not the same as a merc. If you were planning on playing with a specific player from your startup but he was a no show, I would refer to anyone (on the team or not) as a replacement.

    I wasn’t even aware that one could boost their way to victory by using another team’s pro players. Why even have a fixed lineup if mercs are allowed?

  23. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    eSky, you still need to upload your POV demos of both maps.
    Either upload them on ETF2L or use http://www.mediafire.com and link them in the match comments.
    Failure to do so by 30/11/10 23:59 CET will be punished.
    Thanks in advance.

  24. eSky said:

    Boo! Punny little defaultwin hunters!

    http://www.mediafire.com/?hqisl0od7y921kq
    http://www.mediafire.com/?t75se7724q2q19y

  25. ZakMcRofl said:

    I will leave this here:
    https://i.imgur.com/8BZWa.png

    Care to comment ?

  26. Dauk said:

    esky merced in stead of “buddy” so kz didin’t had a +div6 div player that they would had in a full lineup. Please, stop whining. Even if you will be grandet a victory which I do not really care, you will probably loose next game and whine about that.

  27. Puzzles said:

    Well, was it too hard to ask before the match, if you may use a third merc? But instead of this, you edited the log file and lied to the admins, claiming that you did ask, which you did not and that is in my mind just pathetic.

  28. Leptop said:

    Its easy, let me explain… We won our first games with 6:0–> we arent bad. the next thing is, you know that you werent allowed to use merc without usking us, it doesent matter if its div 1 or div 6, but THE important thing is, that you faked your screenshot. We know that, you know that. You got a warning for flamming. We know that, you know that. Any Questions?

  29. ZakMcRofl said:

    Look, this is a sport. E-sport but sport none the less. In sport, there are rules. You broke one of those rules and even worse, to cover it up you lied to the league admins by fabricating that screenshot. Now live with the consequences the admins will hopefully enforce.

    Please do not paint us as the bad guys her. Your team and its friends may have played a better TF2 game that night do but at least we played honestly and with our original team.

    In the interest of full disclosure, here is the evidence that Kiberzona Highlander Strip forged their log to make it look like I approved of their 3 mercs:

    Screenshot as provided by KZ, note the modified flag that winscp sets on edits:
    https://i.imgur.com/8BZWa.png

    What was actually said:
    http://s7.directupload.net/images/user/101128/lvnegfsl.jpg
    http://s3.directupload.net/images/user/101128/pc263752.jpg

    Pre-Match Demo to prove it:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WSEUMCQ8

    Thanks to the admins for handling this in a very professional manner. Good to see that honest play is rewarded…

  30. ashkan said:

    This has got to be the most embarassing thing I have ever seen, and I feel it’s a shame it came from a tournament highlander team. You could’ve at least gotten the medals and dropped out, you wouldn’t have gone far anyway.

  31. Dauk said:

    gl

  32. freshmeatt: ‹Con› said:

    derp derp!

  33. Rabb1T: SnG - SnG said:

    Kids these days…..
    Whining about everything,You lost and you claimed default because u suck…. That’s so low….so low….

  34. CanFo: (Legend) - [HA] - #T4F said:

    Actually they claimed a default because the other team did break a rule.
    Faking logs is not low, right?

  35. spade: IDM. - KZ said:

    Learn to lose next time. We’ve dealt with it already, but you havent. Fact is a fact, we lost (through iremarkable childness of yours), but why havent you told nothing when we played? Were you THAT desperate?

    And also:
    “Its easy, let me explain… We won our first games with 6:0–> we arent bad.”

    Wow, that’s totally valid argument

  36. ZakMcRofl said:

    You lost because you replaced a third of your team with mercs without asking. That is not our mistake. As for why we said nothing when we played: We simply did not know you had three replacements. In summary let me point out where things that went wrong:

    1) Out of 14 potential players, you only have 12 in your lineup and only motivated half of those to play
    2) You did not tell us about your replacements let alone ask for permission
    3) You did not give us a rematch after we pointed out this mistake
    4) You fabricated evidence to make my team and me look bad
    5) Even after being called out you can’t accept that we are not the ones to be blamed for 1-4

    Whether we suck at TF2 or not is not up for discussion here. Sure we might very well lose our next games (like you could have) but we will leave this tournament playing fair and honest.

  37. jotbasan: KZ said:

    Just choke yourself with that internet cable you’re about to cut off.

  38. xiuxiu: [{ORAL}] said:

    there is no other word than pathetic to describe faking logs. EVEN IF you have more skill, it just doesnt count. Its a pity you are still trying to give “Ins Gesicht” a bad name whereas you deserve that. Well, you already got it ;D

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