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Default Win

Germany Marco FTW vs European TCM Gaming
6 - 0


40 Comments

  1. Default Date said:

    Because this match has not been scheduled by either of the teams, a default date has been set for this match.
    The default date is: Sunday, 12 December 2010, 21:15
    Please play this match on the appointed time and submit the results.

  2. Buffalo Bill: TDR » - T⑨ said:

    Blight will take it, but TCM will put up a fight especially on Gully.

  3. WiLL said:

    Goooo Blight

  4. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    sorry to disappoint you.. this match wont happen tonite.

  5. fe said:

    who said all matches will be 0-0 after December 24th?

  6. skinnie: TCM said:

    ??????????

  7. fe said:

    Yeah, I see now. It meant, team has 0 points for unplayed matches.

  8. Permzilla: (Legend) - (☞゚ヮ゚)☞ - WiK? said:

    Sooooo….

  9. Taoism said:

    nicely done blight, big disappoint that you need such things……..

  10. Nor: rda said:

    no bash no game lalwlalwalw

  11. fe said:

    hate you admins

  12. gniedler: T4F - FuDoo :> said:

    deserved win

  13. skinnie: TCM said:

    how was this decided lol

  14. nvc said:

    “Oh shit we might not make top 4”

  15. skinnie: TCM said:

    I wish I was an etf2l admin :(

  16. fe said:

    to be my object of hate

  17. Taoism said:

    i smell curruption……

  18. skinnie: TCM said:

    you are right, no reason to give a default to blight, especially since they wanted to play after the deadline

    [12:07] i have arranged the match with TCM for the 9.1. :P
    [12:07] yea i heard
    [12:08] i try to convince them to extend the prem deadlines to 9.1.
    [12:08] so theres an extra week after the holidays
    [12:09] :o
    [12:09] long as we aint playing :p
    [12:09] i dont care what you do !
    [12:09] :)
    [12:10] ;)

  19. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    Here we go,
    the problem is/was ETF2L setting the deadline to the 24th, and not to begin of 2011 as we all thought.
    This was announced at the 14th of December.
    As soon as I heard, I tried to contact TCM to find a suitable date for both of us before the 24th.
    I was aware of skinnie being in the states, so I kept messaging byte, numlocked and Coinz.
    My team got raped by the ddos/exploit incident really badly, so I had to arrange 8 officials within 5 days before xmas, always keeping Wednesday the 22nd 20cet available for TCM.
    (I also offered to play the match at 19 or 22cet, which was declined)
    It sounds harsh, but I constantly tried to get in touch with anyone from TCM, but no one seemed to bother.. so I have nothing to feel sorry about.
    The only thing I feel sorry about now is FB, who have to play the playoffs for 7th place now, although their match was played _after_ the deadline.

    Just to make this clear, I don’t want any harm to TCM or anyone else.. I’m just defending myself from the “accusations” made in the comments.

    __15.12.2010

    12:28 blight|mvp • Coinz
    12:28 blight|mvp • we need to play our match this year.. :/
    12:28 Coinz • why
    12:28 blight|mvp • etf2l set the deadline to 24th
    12:29 blight|mvp • contacted seb yesterday already
    12:29 Coinz • hmm ok i’ll have to speak with the team then
    12:29 blight|mvp • he told me to talk to you
    12:29 Coinz • thing is idk where appe is and skinnie is in usa
    12:29 blight|mvp • i know :(

    __18.12.2010

    02:32 Byte-me|Aweh • probably not this year
    02:32 Byte-me|Aweh • despite what etf2l says
    02:32 Byte-me|Aweh • :p
    02:33 blight|mvp • erm
    02:33 blight|mvp • racio says this year
    02:33 blight|mvp • did u talk to the etf2l admins?
    02:34 Byte-me|Aweh • yep
    02:34 Byte-me|Aweh • and hes gonna reconsider
    02:34 blight|mvp • okay
    02:34 Byte-me|Aweh • so am awaiting a decision atm bud
    02:34 blight|mvp • okay, cool
    02:34 blight|mvp • i just dont want a 0-0

    __21.12.2010

    21:20 blight|mvp • only option tomorrow 20
    21:54 Coinz|Work • we’ll have to play tomorrow then with 2 mercs
    21:54 Coinz|Work • 20:00 or 21:15 ?
    22:17 Coinz|Work • we booked vs dignitas for 20:00 so we’ll have to play at 21:15
    22:27 blight|mvp • 20
    22:27 blight|mvp • cant
    22:27 blight|mvp • booked for 21
    22:27 blight|mvp • Coinz|Work
    22:27 blight|mvp • wireplay official
    22:30 Coinz|Work • i give jup
    22:33 blight|mvp • well.. i told you guys already last week that we only have wed 20 available
    22:34 blight|mvp • as from thursday on all our players are with their families
    22:34 blight|mvp • driving there n such :/
    22:34 blight|mvp • i even proposed to play wed 20 on etf2l :/
    22:35 Coinz|Work • you wanted to play against 3 players ?
    22:39 blight|mvp • what?
    22:39 blight|mvp • i do want to play your full team m8
    22:39 blight|mvp • the problem is, i dont have any options?
    22:39 Coinz|Work • thats why i give up ?
    22:39 blight|mvp • what you mean, give up?
    22:40 Coinz|Work • give up trying to fix it
    22:40 blight|mvp • :/

    That’s it from my side. Enjoy your Sunday.

  20. Pozitive: HWarriors said:

    hot story

  21. skinnie: TCM said:

    so the short version of your story is:

    21:20 blight|mvp • only option tomorrow 20

    you could only play wedn 22nd on 20cet (lol) and because we already had to play dignitas at that time for etf2l, you think you deserve the default win and just took it

  22. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    nope, i gave more options, but as i had to squeeze in lots of officials its down to: first come, first served.

    i gave you the option for wed 20 far before you arranged anything with dignitas!

  23. skinnie: TCM said:

    other options? now you made me curious

    I only see this
    21:20 blight|mvp • only option tomorrow 20

  24. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    well, thats because most of the chats happened in steam, and theres no logging.

  25. skinnie: TCM said:

    c’mon don’t make stuff up now

    the only day you were willing to play was wedn 22nd and we COULD play on wedn but like the logs show you could not play on that wedn on the normal matchtime of 21.15cet

    there is no justified reason to just take this default win
    clear case of admin abuse
    – end of story –

  26. Haunter said:

    Lets just make something clear, we’re interested in playing the match, I think blight is too

    racio why aren’t we allowed to play it?

  27. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    skinnie, im not making anything up, and if you would ask your players i’m pretty sure they tell you so aswell. it’s not at all my fault that their main organizer (you) were gone.
    noone else seemed to bother too much.

    check our match history in etf2l and wireplay, we ve been doublebooked almost every evening with officials (20+21).
    although we had so many officials i would ve played you guys 19 or 22cet (as already mentioned)

    – final end of story –

  28. WildCard said:

    well as i see it blight couldnt/wouldnt play the date tcm were avaliable for in the week before the 24th, and tcm was in the same position in the last week for the date blight gave.

    So why do blight get default and not tcm? curious on the thought process since both teams couldnt agree upon a date and both teams offered one.

    Seems to me neither team rearly deserve a default but what do i know :P

  29. skinnie: TCM said:

    what does it matter that I was gone? you keep bringing that up as a reason to take the default

    it doesn’t matter at all cause as you say you could not play as you had a lot of officials already

    it is pretty ridiculous to take a default just cause we couldn’t play on 20cet and you have the power to do so :D

  30. pala4 said:

    just play the match :)

  31. mvp.: marco - ¤_¤ said:

    skinnie, noone else from your team gave a fuck about finding a suitable date.
    i made suggestions. coinz asked me the day before wed to play them, which i several times said is booked.

    deadline been the 24th.

    i even contacted the league admins, that its hard to get in touch with anyone of you and to find a date..

    i now give you for the last time the VERY BEST example on why you just didnt give a shit.
    i kept wed 20 free for you until the day itself.. and i told your team several times.. but you ve been not sure if byte will be around. i also proposed that date in the etf2l league system!

    and then suddenly one day before wednesday you planned on playing dignitas, although i told you (AGAIN) several times this the spot i reserved for you especially! (19cet + 22cet would ve been an option aswell on any day)

    now you re not in the playoffs, and thats not my problem at all.. live with it, its your own fault.

  32. skinnie: TCM said:

    why do you keep inventing new reasons to justify this default and to not play?

    it’s you who were too busy to play and it’s you who could only play on one day on a specific (not nomal) hour

    why would we keep suggesting days when you clearly stated you can only play then?

    it is pretty obvious you weren’t planning on actually playing this but after we won vs FB and took your playoff spot you decided to take the default on this

    painfully obvious :)

    if this is not true, let’s play tonight then like you wanted in the first place?

  33. Slick: Epsilon said:

    wow is this tonight? stv!

  34. Slick: Epsilon said:

    and Haunter is back :D welcome back m8

  35. atrox_: WaAS? said:

    dramallama

  36. Warmaster: -[MG]- - HL said:

    First log shows you both agreed on playing it tonight so both teams can play.

    Furthermore, I’m sure admins will agree on making an exception so this match can still be played. (There’s still a week left to play the first playoff match anyway)

    Just play the game, get tf2tv on it and let me watch :)

  37. skinnie: TCM said:

    I wish we could play :)

  38. electro: Got Milk? said:

    fail

  39. Coinz: Nave said:

    I dont really care about us not playing the playoff, cause tbh i dont think we deserve to play it when we still had 3 matches to be played after 19th which was the first deadline, and this was due to several reasons lots of ppl know. But i would appreciate you stop lying about us not doing any effort to schedule our game, cause we both know you suggested and i agreed on playing 091 very early, and as soon i knew we had to play before 31th i did everything i could to play our games and the proof is we played vs dig and fb with 2 mercs and i thank both of them for that especially fb they deserve to win the fair play award of the season.

  40. harbleu: Truls! - dstry said:

    match should be played imo. all i see is blight only giving TCM one date and time to play, which is just as much their fault for getting so backed up as it is TCM’s.

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