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        <title>Reply to &#8220;Link your desktop :D&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7141/page-56/?recent=383634#post=380714</link>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:00:21 +0200</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;sc2 2on2?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-20883/page-1/?recent=375018#post=374466</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=374451][...]

makes sense... poor metagame :([/quote]

It\'s just maps are shit, simple as that]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:59:52 +0200</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;Rage Thread&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-20867/page-2/?recent=374517#post=374235</link>
        <description><![CDATA[FUCK PROTOSS]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:10:39 +0200</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;The Walking Dead&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-20458/page-1/?recent=369323#post=369323</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=369311]This whole season has been one giant fuck up.[/quote]]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:05:01 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;Benefits of an expensive/gaming keyboard?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-20145/page-2/?recent=364372#post=364060</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=364023]http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000T5KPK6/ref=asc_df_B000T5KPK66303535?smid=A2I7QVS8P2UX7J&#38;tag=hydra0b-21&#38;linkCode=asn&#38;creative=22218&#38;creativeASIN=B000T5KPK6[/quote]

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        <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:25:08 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;TF2 Is Dead?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-20066/page-3/?recent=363946#post=361977</link>
        <description><![CDATA[It\'s not the players in itself, it\'s the fact they change teams every other week, it\'s fucking ridiculous.

It amazes me how people can\'t connect old diggy\'s success to the fact they stayed stable for ages.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:44:36 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;THE INTERNET IS DYING!!!!&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-20060/page-1/?recent=361794#post=361794</link>
        <description><![CDATA[this is fun]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:27:34 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;Did Sideshow ever win an MGE match?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19936/page-1/?recent=359973#post=359897</link>
        <description><![CDATA[oh look, another shit thread!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:34:37 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;EAC @ ETF2L?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-19903/page-1/?recent=359971#post=359368</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=359364]What about wire?[/quote]

0/10]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:23:15 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;cp_granary for season 11 - yes or no&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/maps/topic-19883/page-6/?recent=360727#post=359155</link>
        <description><![CDATA[just let prem players decide it, they know whats best for everybody!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:27:27 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19753/page-4/?recent=356167#post=355957</link>
        <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev7o8oYAbzA]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:11:51 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;A Painful Introspective&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19692/page-6/?recent=354895#post=354799</link>
        <description><![CDATA[Hi, remember me?

[quote=354774]It keeps TF2 in isolation. It is hard to get sponsors and LANs when the only league that is used is a community one. No LANs and sponsors means less publicity, means less people. There are some other reasons, but these are the ones we can control.[/quote]

It\'s one thing saying ETF2L isn\'t the league we wanted it to be, that it could be much better, but it\'s retarded to say ETF2L has done more harm than good for comp TF2, please take some time to realize that if this site didn\'t exist, people wouldn\'t be playing ESL/wireplay more, what would have replaced these forums? IRC? lol.

[quote=354774]I agree I was being rather liberal about my claims, but it is largely true. A lot of other communities do see TF2 as a bit of a joke.[/quote]

Again, you were not being liberal, you were being wrong, a lot of communities do see (comp) TF2 as a joke because it is a joke, not because of the community.

Now I\'m not saying you\'re not right, and this community has a shit attitude, but the message you tried to pass was \'TF2 is shit for competitive play because we as a community are idiots\', and that\'s plain wrong.

Also please take some time to read the most wise thing said in this thread:

[quote=354735]Lastly, Professional Competitive TF2 is simply fiction. Our community simply creates this illusion because it\'s more fun to pretend there is something significant on the line for a match / tournament / season. It\'s the players who need to realise this, as the organisers are doing as good a job as they can possibly do.[/quote]]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:50:13 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;A Painful Introspective&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19692/page-2/?recent=354895#post=354681</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=354658]As a competitive game, TF2 is looked upon as joke by many other communities, this reputation is due to everyone in the community and has nothing to do with the game.[/quote]

This is so so so so wrong.

[quote=354658]ETF2L has done more harm than good for TF2[/quote]

I can\'t believe someone actually thinks this.

[quote=354658]Now with ESL dropping TF2, it just shows how little we care about the game in the long run, most of the community thinking only short term about themselves. ESL had massive problems, but it would of help TF2 so much. [/quote]

Yeah, ESL dropping TF2 shows how little WE care, right? maybe if their whole site wasn\'t a giant turd and wire wasn\'t a horrible, game-crashing software, things would be different.

The rant about prem players is true though, they are too busy being prem and dropping and making new prem teams next season etc.

But, let\'s face it, this game is slowly dying, not because of Valve, neither because of us, mostly because it didn\'t get picked up, it didn\'t have the attention of sponsors, lan\'s, and now people are moving on, stopping being lazy/dicks would be helpful, but it wouldn\'t make tf2 the game you want it to be, that\'s not going to happen.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:21:31 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;No TF2 Promode ?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19620/page-8/?recent=354000#post=353786</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=353781]Consider an extreme, imagine TF2 becomes as popular amongst both players and potential organizations as, for example, Starcraft II. What do you get? Loads of teams, loads of LANs, loads of prize money. Cool! On the other hand, you get all the drama, all the technical difficulties regarding getting a chance to attend the said LANs, shitloads of people, who will never get to the top because they think pretending is better, as well as anything you could sum up with a single word - commercialism. That\'s a no-no for me personally.[/quote]

Are you honestly saying it wouldn\'t be better if tf2 was as big as sc2?]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:32:07 +0100</pubDate>
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        <title>Reply to &#8220;No TF2 Promode ?&#8221;</title>
        <link>http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-19620/page-7/?recent=354000#post=353729</link>
        <description><![CDATA[[quote=353353]The sooner you realise that trying to make TF2 a meaningful esport is futile the faster you will give up, because that\'s not what this game is about. TF2 is meant to be a fun, team-based pub game and the comp scene is only a glorified, organised version of that. I mean the game isn\'t even designed for 6v6 play anyway, so why would any focus be put on it? Not to mention that the game is hamstrung by undue influence from pub players. I mean what other good comp game cares about attracting pub players to the comp side?

If you\'re in this game for the esport dimension of it, the sponsorship, and continued development focused on the comp side, the big crowds and massive tournaments (like MLG, GSL, Dreamhack etc.) then you will be disappointed. Move on and don\'t look back. However, if you realise that 6v6 is not an esport but a fun team-based game, then you can enjoy it for what it is.

TL;DR: Too many hats in this dumb game for it to be an esport.[/quote]

thread should have ended right here, because this is 100% correct]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:46:46 +0100</pubDate>
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