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so many new good-looking maps, so little time to playtest them all

It’s just a complimentary platform. Mostly it was to provide a little more high ground and cut line of sight to the opposite cliff top a little. In the end it turned out not to be that useful other than for scouts to access the opposite cliff top (not intentionally, but interesting gameplay all the same).

I had suggestions to allow the CP to be capped from above, on said platform;it prevents the CP being a death trap for scouts and reduces the effectiveness of spam when jump perk classes can use the top, something of a regular complaint about the control points 2 and 3 were how effective jumping out and lobbing all your ammo at the point was.

Quoted from grazr

cp_axle_b5 out now, get it whilst it’s luke warm.

“It looks really nice and has a good general feel of how you’d move throughout but 2nd seems really messy and mid isn’t symmetrical so there are clear advantages to picking one team over the other, it also has the syndrome of too many avenues to attack/defend.

But all in all its good, if you can find some way to fix second.” (с) Feresar#fray-tf2

In what way is mid not symmetrical, besides perhaps the crates on the cliff top that are wire spools on the other?

The deadend was a route i recently removed in order to move access to the second floor at CP1 forwards and closer to the main path. I guess i should have blocked that off further along to remove the corridor altogether. It didn’t seem important at the time since it gets barely any traffic.

As for too many avenues of attack. A curious statement. There are only ever 2-3 routes to get anywhere, which is pretty standard for 5CP push, is it not? If you could be more specific that’d be helpful.

Since Tarmo- dropped TF2 i havn’t been able to get a hold of any axle pug demo’s. Could someone be kind enough as to supply me with any that are saved that i might see how the new changes are being used?

Well, there aren’t too many routes, it just makes that impression when you don’t know the map. With the different height levels on mid, and that house with the dead end on 2nd.

The tunnel below from 2nd to mid is too long and narrow for my taste.

The dynamic between last and 2nd is quite odd. There are, depending on how its counted, 4 or 5 entrances and exits to last, from different angles and heights. But all of them converge into the same room. And the area with that dead end room next to seconds is pretty pointless.

These make more sense when keeping in mind there actualy was the route that you mentionend you blocked off now (I haven’t seen the earlier versions or can’t remember them). I’d consider opening that up again in some form or another.

cp_axle_b6 now out.

change log:
Added missing light in BLU’s CP1 area.
Removed 2 cloned lights at BLU’s base vestibule.
Fixed inconcistant soundscapes at CP1 for both bases.
Fixed cubemaps on windows at primary spawn(s).
removed CP2 building, CP is now outside and on high ground.
Removed dead ends left by blocking tertiary route to CP1.
Improved skybox on RED’s side.
Improved 3dskybox behind RED’s base
Fixed several prop shadow issues throughout the map.
Worked additional prop fade distances.

>>>HUZZAH<<<

Alright, cp_axle_b7 now available.

Change log:
Assigned associated teams/CP’s to observer points. (finally)
Additional observer points inside bases.
Additional minor detail around CP1.
Increased spawn wave time by 1 second on contested last CP.
Made it more difficult to “cycle” mini sentries at spawn exits at CP1.
Addressed “wall walk” imbalance issue on BLU side of mid.
Addressed broken spy-tech soundscapes at CP1, sub-soundscape sounds should be more consistent.
Increased ambience levels around CP1 in both bases.
Minor adjustments to fade distances.
Added preview images to intro-chalkboard.
Probably some other stuff i forgot.

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=1990

The intention is that this will be the last beta and the following update will be RC and hopefully include a custom skybox and a custom finalé based prop.