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Soldier Weps, Overpowered or not?
Created 18th December 2009 @ 05:13
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how abotu that : 2scouts,1soldier,1heavy,1demoman,1medic
soldier is a bit strong yes but the new weapons are jsut awesoem and there will be many sick frags with it so keep the teamthings fair
Nah, it’s just that soldier weapons are actually overpowered.
Please define overpowered.
If you mean “they make solly better than before”, then yes, they are overpowered. But solly ALWAYS was just a lame guy who protects the medic and sometimes jump on a spire or smth. All the killing, damaging, etc was done by either scouts or demomen, and now you (everyone except sollys) are afraid of that. ADMIT IT!
TDH:
1) The rocket speed makes them almost impossible to dodge at low-mid range.
2) Close range rockets do up to 160 damage.
3) Airshots do up to 220 damage.
Pickaxe:
1) Pretty much no downsides. (you do like 1/2 shovel damage when at full health, but why would you use melee at full health anyway?).
2) You move much faster with low hp (almost like a scout with ~20hp or so)
3) Does over 175 damage with low health.
Bugle:
I haven’t tested it much, but I’ve heard about minicrits damage fall off.
most annoying thing: you didnt even jump but you get hit by a minicrit rocket :S (there should be a heigh when the hit get minicrit imo)
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2) Close range rockets do up to 160 damage.
3) Airshots do up to 220 damage.
i think those are bugged
Nah, it’s just that soldier weapons are actually overpowered.
Please define overpowered.
If you mean “they make solly better than before”, then yes, they are overpowered. But solly ALWAYS was just a lame guy who protects the medic and sometimes jump on a spire or smth. All the killing, damaging, etc was done by either scouts or demomen, and now you (everyone except sollys) are afraid of that. ADMIT IT!
TDH:
1) The rocket speed makes them almost impossible to dodge at low-mid range.
2) Close range rockets do up to 160 damage.
3) Airshots do up to 220 damage.Pickaxe:
1) Pretty much no downsides. (you do like 1/2 shovel damage when at full health, but why would you use melee at full health anyway?).
2) You move much faster with low hp (almost like a scout with ~20hp or so)
3) Does over 175 damage with low health.Bugle:
I haven’t tested it much, but I’ve heard about minicrits damage fall off.
those damage values are not correct, airshots do 185 damage with damagespread disabled.
The only problem is that shots are registered as “midair” when you are jumping. There should be some minimal height for them to mini-crit.
just played a pickup and I got 1shotted 2 times without minicrit (and with full hp)
i got 1shotted from point blank as medic (150hp)
those damage values are not correct, airshots do 185 damage with damagespread disabled.
The only problem is that shots are registered as “midair” when you are jumping. There should be some minimal height for them to mini-crit.
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I was on the spire in a pickup a few hours ago and an overhealed solly jumped from the stone bridge up towards me. Put one rocket in him and that killed him instantly. I think it did something around 210 damage.
The TDH should not receive mini crits on airshots, since it is easier to hit them. If a RL should receive such a bonus, the normal one should get it.
just tested it now, when a banner is activated and a engineer is in proximity, if he has an Sentry up, then the sentry fires mini crits….hello defence!
Nah, it’s just that soldier weapons are actually overpowered.
Please define overpowered.
If you mean “they make solly better than before”, then yes, they are overpowered. But solly ALWAYS was just a lame guy who protects the medic and sometimes jump on a spire or smth. All the killing, damaging, etc was done by either scouts or demomen, and now you (everyone except sollys) are afraid of that. ADMIT IT!
+1
TDH Limit 1 and we are fine.
haha some of these posts are brilliant, now that the soldier can finally compete with both demo and scout at close and medium range people cry about it.
The following is what is wrong with the new weapons:
TDH = minicrits are not needed, damage should be higher but not 25%.
However if you check the splash difference is pathetic.
The bugle, well I dont feel it should give mini crits to the bearer.
The axe is already considered an upgrade and valve said this in an email to the creator, so please get over it. If the soldier is moving at lightspeed, get your pistol out if your a scout, and if demo wham out your bottle or sword, even a med should have no trouble killing a soldier who moves like a scout with a very small amount of hp and is limited to using just the axe. (for those who are clueless you only get the boost with the axe out).
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