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Quoted from Harry

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Extrapolating, if you seriously want to tell me that LionKing is better the Demos, then go ahead.

How dare you insult THE KING!
This post/rating sucks quite a lot tbh but thanks for the spreadsheet.
You can’t rate players based on their stats alone when taking the whole season into account, especially when some teams didn’t even have their mains on the classes on all match days. Mercs, subs, class changes mid season are going to affect the performance of the team, which can also affect how a single player performs. Plus maps matter too but the others already elaborated on that.
You actually need to look at the single matches to see what actual plays happened and how they affected the outcome of the match, but that takes more effort than just looking at numbers. Rating players just on stats alone is a waste of time if it’s so inconsistent in my opinion.

imagine caring this much about a couple of numbers on a google spreadsheet

since when did stats matter this much

Quoted from TimTum

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The spreadsheet is nice, and I do agree with most classes. But especially for medic it doesn’t make any sense. You go with Austin because his healing, but BC only got 28 hpm less, much better drop% stat (just because you use kritz you can’t use that as an excuse to drop more: http://logs.tf/2165448), better assists per minute . And you said BC dies quite a bit, but he only got 0.04 D/M more than Austin. On top of that, it’s much more difficult to get good stats on worse teams than on one of the best teams.

it’s called tactical dying/dropping (it works)

Quoted from Spanns

Just saying that you are treating as if they would obviously outperform everyone else even if they played the full season because coincidentally the games they did play they actually did well, therefore they will do the exact same performance on the other maps when this isn’t always the case, certain maps are worse or better for certain classes and you also have to take inconsistency into the account aswell, you could be the best on koth but at the same time the worst on payload or just generally get bad luck and play a bad game out of the blue, this happens to anyone.

The more games you play the more stuck your stats per minute or KD get, the more likely you are to make mistakes, say you get like a 2.0 KD on two officials and then hit a 0.5 on the other two, totaling an average 1.25 KD, now imagine another scenario, instead of playing the 4 officials and getting 1.25 KD, you literally only play the ones you get 2.0 KD, it paints a completely different story, you are just ignoring that and assuming “oh he played 2-3 games and did well, therefore he is better than someone who actually took the time to play this gamemode and had to keep consistency over a wide variety of maps.

It’s honestly hard to not find this insulting especially when it comes from the perspective of someone who doesn’t even know what happened in any of the officials, it completely defeats the purpose of this thread since it spreads out false observations about players and discarting people who actually played.

First point you have to both realise and accept is that this is an opinion piece. This means I am giving my opinions. I am not, and I even paraphrase this, claiming this to be anywhere near perfect.

Second thing you have to understand is that division 1 was/is a shitstorm this season, as Austin has pointed out. I would never be able to make everyone happy with my cut-off point, so I chose the one which I thought would be best, and enable me to write the most entertaining piece. This piece is for fun, so please do not take it even half as seriously as you seem to be taking it.

Thirdly, the number of games required to be considered for an award, for Premiership of course, is three. Therefore, the maximum I will ever go is three. I chose two here because [insert waffle I have said multiple times]. Furthermore, I am well aware of how the stats can be deceiving, and the fact I am effectively rosterriding (though official subbing) [“All this rosterriding has made me ill” etc.], but you haven’t played two-thirds of the matches either. If you think it’s insulting that I think that croix would have played well against Dr Med, and fine against you (pl.), then so be it.

Finally, don’t assume what my intentions of this thread are and were. I wrote this as a fun piece of writing, aiming to get people to have a bit of a chuckle, while also making sure my spreadsheet didn’t go to waste. It was, and never could be, not written to be as accurate as possible.

Quoted from Samus

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How dare you insult THE KING!
This post/rating sucks quite a lot tbh but thanks for the spreadsheet.
You can’t rate players based on their stats alone when taking the whole season into account, especially when some teams didn’t even have their mains on the classes on all match days. Mercs, subs, class changes mid season are going to affect the performance of the team, which can also affect how a single player performs. Plus maps matter too but the others already elaborated on that.
You actually need to look at the single matches to see what actual plays happened and how they affected the outcome of the match, but that takes more effort than just looking at numbers. Rating players just on stats alone is a waste of time if it’s so inconsistent in my opinion.

I’m not watching every STV demo 18* times to make sure I get my opinions correct. That has to be painfully obvious. Hence, I’m of course basing my opinions of the stats. One thing that people seem to have not taken into account is the fact I have spent around 7 hours (?) looking at the logs while filling out the spreadsheet. I am more than qualified to say which teams sucked and when. I’ve also watched around 7 or 8 of the matches through players’ twitch streams, but that’s a side point.

It’s less rating players, and more saying who I think player the best to the best of my knowledge in a (hopefully) mildly funny way.

Anyway, no problem for the spreadsheet. Happy to do it next season.

Quoted from TimTum

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The spreadsheet is nice, and I do agree with most classes. But especially for medic it doesn’t make any sense. You go with Austin because his healing, but BC only got 28 hpm less, much better drop% stat (just because you use kritz you can’t use that as an excuse to drop more: http://logs.tf/2165448), better assists per minute . And you said BC dies quite a bit, but he only got 0.04 D/M more than Austin. On top of that, it’s much more difficult to get good stats on worse teams than on one of the best teams.

28 hpm is significant in my opinion. That’s 2.5% more efficient. You are essentially gaining over a second’s worth of healing every minute. Austin dies less, and heals more, and so gets more charges (he also used more kritz, but doing a 2 second head estimation-calculation still gives more charges than BC). I don’t care about ass/min. It’s also difficult to get good stats on medic when (you and) your entire team is meme-ing for half the season.

The drops in that log I didn’t take into account because I was just looking at the overall. I’m ill so I’m doing the least work possible. Helps towards disproving my theory for the drop rate, but I’m not changing my post. Post is for fun etc. etc.

Also, what Austin says. But just explaining my thought-process/opinions from above. No hostility implied (wrong word but ill and cba).

where is my honorable mention as best demo in mid??