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TF2 Update 19-11-2010 (RAW Input)

Created 19th November 2010 @ 22:35

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Anathema

rawinput 0 or 1 makes absolutely no difference for me whatsoever.

laerin

-9w-

I’m on an 800 DPI piece of shit wireless mouse and I can definitely feel the difference. If you don’t notice any difference, may as well keep it on.

nTraum

\V/ Gold
LAME

Quoted from Anathema

rawinput 0 or 1 makes absolutely no difference for me whatsoever.

correct.

tay

since theres now raw input will i need my mousefix still?

Moreg

dc.

“The game’s icon as displayed on the taskbar has been changed from the icon for Team Fortress Classic to the icon for Team Fortress 2.”

it took them 3 years to fix this

wpminnows

[PG]

my mouse feels a lot more sensitive regardless of raw input being on

i hope they fix that because i can’t get the new sens perfect and it’s effecting my airshot success rate i don’t like it one bit

franco

Quoted from AnimaL

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if u cant see it, why bother?

why not?

crizzl

WEED
DANMARK

It feels too smooth, for my liking, with raw input on. o_O

Cloud

.wldcrd!

I’ll just drop in my experience:

3200DPI Roccat Kone @ 0.9 sens ingame, mouse acceleration disabled and accel curves fixed, Win7x64

Rawinput off:
Occasionally jerky mouse, otherwise fine

Rawinput on:
Jerkiness completely gone, smoother movement, no difference in overall sensitivity, my aim is better, possible placebo? Meh. ^^

nvc

Most of you have missed the benefits of raw input.

Raw input takes data straight from the mouse, as opposed to windows input which can cause negative acceleration if you’re dpi is too high for your current resolution i.e. every time your cursor clips the edge of the screen it’s reset to the middle, that delay in resetting it reduces your sensitivity – this effect is increased the faster you move your mouse.

e.g.

* try 1800dpi at 1024×768 with an ingame sensitivity of 1.4

* then try 450dpi at 1024×768 with an ingame sensitivity of 5.6

Those that are experiencing a “faster sensitivity” – are probably just experiencing a sensitivity without negative acceleration. This could then also make the inbuilt positive acceleration on your mouse, or user set acceleration more noticable.

The only way you’ll have a sensitivity without acceleration with raw input, is to have a mouse with no acceleration present in the first place.


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Ghostface

spire

After turning it on, I actually got a slower sens rather than a fast one. But the movements are a lot smoother now. Also turned the sens up a little and the aim feels better now.

Square

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cuttycutcut

this makes all more clear to me, thank you :D


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Foxt

Someone on steam forums found that Xfire-ingame is the cause for not working raw input. Just disable it in xfire options, it works for me now :]


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Lynn

⁄⁄nν

Quoted from nvc

Most of you have missed the benefits of raw input.

Raw input takes data straight from the mouse, as opposed to windows input which can cause negative acceleration if you’re dpi is too high for your current resolution i.e. every time your cursor clips the edge of the screen it’s reset to the middle, that delay in resetting it reduces your sensitivity – this effect is increased the faster you move your mouse.

e.g.

* try 1800dpi at 1024×768 with an ingame sensitivity of 1.4

* then try 450dpi at 1024×768 with an ingame sensitivity of 5.6

Those that are experiencing a “faster sensitivity” – are probably just experiencing a sensitivity without negative acceleration. This could then also make the inbuilt positive acceleration on your mouse, or user set acceleration more noticable.

The only way you’ll have a sensitivity without acceleration with raw input, is to have a mouse with no acceleration present in the first place.

Informative post is informative.

Just a random thought, could it be that the people not feeling any difference have had something similar to this the whole time due to a no mouse acceleration patch?

Spike Himself

TC

Quoted from Lynn

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Informative post is informative.

Just a random thought, could it be that the people not feeling any difference have had something similar to this the whole time due to a no mouse acceleration patch?

I’m one of those people, and I can tell you that I had done exactly nothing to my mouse (Razer Naga) to make it work they way it does. Using the fancy razer config program and its drivers as well.

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