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Created 14th September 2012 @ 10:48

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Bloodyyy

(Weeaboo Nerd)
(XD ͜ʖXD)

It’s interesting, they ban a plugin thats used by probably 20-40% of ETF2L players and advertise the next season of ETF2L 6v6 on the same day.

SmitZ

Quoted from niklz

Fingers crossed that valve understand that the competitive community support higher fovs on the whole, and give us the settings to use without plugins in the future. Perhaps server side restrictions for different leagues could be the way to go?

IMO 130 FOV is a spy nerf, but coming from games like QL 90 FOV tf2 is like tunnel vision. Remember higher FOV isn’t just a straight up advantage, the extra vision at the sides comes at the price of players in the middle of the screen appearing further away and faster moving, meaning that aim is technically harder whilst keeping a player on your screen is easier. It’s swings and roundabouts.

I feel like allowing up to 110 should keep most spy mains happy, while obliging those that can’t stand the current 90 restriction.

I think that it’s about time that valve gave the community more say in what settings are allowed in comp, it’s and old game now, and it’s kept alive by and large by the community.

By far the best response in this thread.

Kemor

Ban everybody who uses fov 90, they are cheating and have advantage over fov 75 players !!!!!

Vali

-9w-

Quoted from freshmeatt

Breaking the rules is not equal to cheating

That is exactly what cheating is.

sidestep

(ETF2L Donator)
bobs

Quoted from Vali

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That is exactly what cheating is.

Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

Guyyst

JI

Quoted from sidestep

[…]

Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

I smiled

Crafz

Quoted from sidestep

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Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

Every cheetah is a cheetah, but not every cheetah is a cheater.

LaMqTa

fenneks

Quoted from sidestep

[…]

Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

+1 :D

Kemor

Quoted from sidestep

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Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

You never fail to amuse me.

Mors Immortalis

KoP!?

Quoted from Kemor

Ban everybody who uses fov 90, they are cheating and have advantage over fov 75 players !!!!!

How stupid this statement is in 1 – 10 scale?

You can change your settings in game,(WOW!) yet using a game bug to run third party program to modify the game is… well, cheating, no matter what that third party app gives you.
You like it or not, a bug was fixed.

Changing fov limits is just another story, you still can use serverside mods to change it.


Last edited by Mors Immortalis,

ryse

encore

could we please end this openplugin WAS or WASN’T a cheat “discussion” and start a real discussion about the fov-cap-question itself? perhaps it might be useful to close this thread and start a new one, without openplugin as part of the discussion..

Vali

-9w-

Quoted from sidestep

Every labrador is a dog, but not every dog is a labrador.

And valve have, for all intents and purposes, labelled every dog a cheater.

Breaking rules is by definition cheating just like actions that break laws are illegal. This is just one of those “socially acceptable” things like smoking pot that lots of people do and seems fairly harmless. You can argue back and forth all day whether the rules are stupid and how there should be an option that isn’t against the rules but to say that breaking those rules isn’t cheating is just dumb.

Crafz

Quoted from Vali

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And valve have, for all intents and purposes, labelled every dog a cheater.

Breaking rules is by definition cheating just like actions that break laws are illegal. This is just one of those “socially acceptable” things like smoking pot that lots of people do and seems fairly harmless. You can argue back and forth all day whether the rules are stupid and how there should be an option that isn’t against the rules but to say that breaking those rules isn’t cheating is just dumb.

We made use of a loophole and if you equate that to cheating. You’re dumb

Miek

prfsnlgmr

Quoted from Crafz

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We made use of a loophole and if you equate that to cheating. You’re dumb

Please go and look at and understand the OpenPlugin source code, it wasn’t a loophole.

Guyyst

JI

Quoted from ryse

could we please end this openplugin WAS or WASN’T a cheat “discussion” and start a real discussion about the fov-cap-question itself? perhaps it might be useful to close this thread and start a new one, without openplugin as part of the discussion..

I was just about to post exactly that lol

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