Just Another Banpost

Date March 18, 2014

We haven’t had one of these in a while.

Some players have been spotted with recent VAC bans affecting Team Fortress 2 and thus are now banned from ETF2L for one year:

As these players have not been caught cheating by our staff, their match results are not affected.

The following players have been caught cheating by our Anti-Cheat team. They are banned from ETF2L for 1 year:

The following player failed to provide requested demos twice and is thus banned from ETF2L for 2 weeks:

The following players have been caught sharing accounts to play official matches. They are banned from ETF2L for 1 year:

Carry on, citizens.

145 Comments

  1. Permzilla: (Legend) - (☞゚ヮ゚)☞ - WiK? said:

  2. nevier: (XD ͜ʖXD) said:

    LOL DROTALION HAHAHAHAHA

  3. TJB said:

    [drotalion intensifies]

  4. Menty: SVIFT - Nein said:

    Engy aimbot sick

  5. nevier: (XD ͜ʖXD) said:

    haha drotalion

  6. Popcorp said:

    Dro told me that he won Solid in MGE and thus made him mad

  7. Jonaz said:

    DROTALION :DDD

  8. Menty: SVIFT - Nein said:

    made my day

  9. Clark: SDCK! said:

    drotalion :DDDD

  10. ondkaja: IKEA said:

    noob down

  11. Gubbins: Op4 said:

    HAHA YOU’LL NEVER FIND MY MAIN, M00NTF2 4 LIEF

  12. ryan: lizard said:

    420 engy meatshots lol

  13. Droidster: tavi said:

    A NEW AGE HAS DAWNED, PERMZILLA IS FINALLY FIGHTING BACK AGAINST HIS SECRET OVERLORDS

  14. Blooddrunk: Nein said:

    I hope our jobs are free soon

  15. dodo: ⇗upp⇙ said:

    drotalion lel

  16. Selek: Dr. med. said:

    Good comments so far, keep them going :)

  17. Pistolvania said:

    Wtf Drotalion hahahaha

  18. Taylor Swift said:

    DROTALION LMAO

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  20. bejcn: :elephant: said:

    i thought engi having auto aim was just part of the game

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  21. Droodl3: TSM said:

    how can you still be bad at engie when using triggerbot

  22. kronis: NASA - hi im dog said:

    Can we get a def win in hl? obviously Coopxr was cheating, so admin, pls

  23. Taylor Swift said:

    https://i.imgur.com/9DBiQz6.jpg

  24. Goto: WR. said:

    where are the french?

  25. stephen said:

    THATS WHY DROTALION WAS SO GOOD ON FLANKS FUCK YOU NERD I THOUGHT I WAS BAD

  26. Tuto: 8-) said:

    I knew this Fender guy wasn’t legit sniper, also rip coopxr, heavy is a hard class

  27. Solitude said:

    rest in pizza dro lol

  28. Popcorp said:

    Why Drotalion got banned? If he DID used triggerbot, it was OUTSIDE of ANY Official League meatches

    We need proof, Drotalion even cooperated with AC admins and only 1 person looked at demos and the person was the ragey AC kid who got destroyed in MGE

  29. spherefs said:

    A friend of mine was telling me a while back that Drotalion was asking him how to do more damage with hitscan. I guess he just gave up trying to get good and decided to hack instead.

  30. Scissors: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    rofl drotalion is hacking? He was possibly the last guy I’d think was using triggerbot lololololo

  31. ondkaja: IKEA said:

    “Why Drotalion got banned? If he DID used triggerbot, it was OUTSIDE of ANY Official League meatches”

    so hacking is okay as long as as it’s not in a league match?

  32. Solid: who is? - itsallgood said:

    “Why Drotalion got banned? If he DID used triggerbot, it was OUTSIDE of ANY Official League meatches”
    So you’re saying that if you cheat in a scrim it doesn’t matter at all? We have a strict policy against cheaters and it’s completely irrelevant WHERE one cheats.

    “We need proof, Drotalion even cooperated with AC admins and only 1 person looked at demos and the person was the ragey AC kid who got destroyed in MGE”
    First of all, I will never ever watch a demo when I’m biased. Then the “ragey AC kid” wasn’t the only one looking at the demo. Every single ac admin looked at it and gave their opinion. It’s not just 1 admin looking at 1 guy, we’re looking at those people together.

  33. Haydn: m'way - four hundred an said:

    it was outside of leage meaches dw guys

    RIP drotalion thanks for leaving us mid season buddy

  34. Popcorp said:

    Still, why would you request someone’s demo OUTSIDE of League matches?

    If he was really cheating outside of Official matches, it doesn’t matter, you can cheat outside but play fairly when playing official matches, it’s up to Valve to VAC ban players who are cheating

  35. konr said:

    Popcorp you genuinely are a fucking moron

  36. ach: m'way - mon said:

    Amen

  37. konr said:

    You realise that VAC isn’t foolproof right? If it was we’d literally never ever need AC admins. To say that if someone cheats out of officials we can’t ban them is to say that we know that they aren’t going to do the same in officials. Obviously we don’t know that. Same things goes with a VAC ban here remember? We don’t have a clue why they got vacced but if it’s a source game then they obviously had a big chance of cheating in TF2 and therefore they are banned because they are cheating in some way.

    tl;dr you’re a retard

  38. Popcorp said:

    You’re a moron. I’m defending my friend.

    Im just saying, what can admins do, if you don’t provide them demos? Outside of League AC admins cant request your demos, even if a player won’t provide you a demo, what can admins do? Give him a warning or ban him without any proof?

    Dro cooperated and he had nothing to hide, he knew that the demos admins requested were outside of League games, so he could just not provide them, but he still did

  39. Reservoir dog: TC.Express said:

    ffs drotalion

  40. Solid: who is? - itsallgood said:

    Like I said it doesn’t matter WHERE you cheat. IF you cheat then you’re not welcome here. If a person cheats in a scrim/pug/dm/pub/etc. he will also most likely cheat in an official. I’m sorry but that’s just how etf2l works. It wouldn’t work if we had this kind of loose policy regarding cheaters. Obviously not everyone likes that but he’s not the first person who got banned for cheating outside of officials.

  41. Popcorp said:

    Ok and what would happen if he didnt provide any demos? By logic you cant do anything, not warning, nothing, outside of ETF2L

  42. konr said:

    If he didn’t give demos they’d have to wait until he played a league match but honestly he’d also look way more supsicious. The fact that he cooperated has nothing to do with it. The AC team looked at the demo(s ?) he gave to them and they then said he was using a triggerbot.

    Yo judge/dury you know that guy you just sent to prison for murder because the evidence showed clearly that he killed the person? Yeah well he gave it to you willingly when he didn’t really have to cause you had no warrant so you shouldn’t put him in prison.

    I repeat: Moron.

  43. ach: m'way - mon said:

    http://puu.sh/7AxIP/a5779157cc.jpg
    nice quote

  44. Popcorp said:

    Wow, someone is on his period today, aka Konr

  45. xzr said:

    he was hacking and provided demos voluntarily, wow he must be almost as retarded as popcorp

  46. Taylor Swift said:

    Popcorp, please

  47. konr said:

    I aint mad you’re just dumb and I’m pointing it out :D

  48. Tomu: BoyBrigade - MEGA$$ said:

    I swear drotalion couldnt even aim on engy rofl

  49. zen1th: PRXSM - LEGO said:

    Drama on this banpost is less interesting than previous ones.
    Step it up etf2l!

  50. inso: itsallgood said:

    >Steel Allstar Engineer Season 9

    smh

  51. fraac: JOHN - CENATION said:

    is pretty weird he gave up the demos that got him banned. next level

  52. T0m: (ETF2L Donator) said:

    Genuinely lold at some of the comments on this. Fucking idiots xD

  53. Lex: Fe | said:

    Had to be some badly written triggerbot.

  54. Spade said:

    Fucking hell drotalion

  55. quintosh: wL. said:

    theres a bunch of evidence going around so if you want to try your luck for ac admin send us an email :)

  56. Python said:

    HAHHHAHA ENGINEER TRIGGERBOT OMG

  57. Python said:

    TC Drotalion: must write a forum post
    python: Okay, link me when ready

    inc drama

  58. winterz: (è_é) said:

    Why would someone provide his own demo’s if he is using a triggerbot. Do it like coopxr did ;p

  59. taffguy: pj. said:

    these germans…

  60. Tetrix: catgirl.tf said:

    moar

  61. DCS: (Legend) - notdoggo - Dr. med. said:

    no way hes cheating though.

  62. Jesse James said:

    http://etf2l.org/forum/feedback/topic-28363/

  63. Jesse James said:

    why did you locked the thread … :(

  64. droso: o/ said:

    Dude, your triggerbot is obvious, you could at least try to hide it. It makes your pathetic thread kinda silly anyway.

  65. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - SVIFT said:

    admins shouldnt get baited into discussions on a newspost

    #1rule

  66. dAGNER: duplo said:

    @sam
    https://i.imgur.com/zZUlu2D.gif

  67. hr said:

    watching the mge demo is some funny shit

  68. san alex said:

    does this mean that Team Team Mate will get a default loss in every game from season 5?

  69. Team mate: pHy said:

    oh no, pls dont do that.

  70. audio. said:

    can i have any proofs of cheating?

  71. Russian Guyovich: (Surging Meat Cable) - [T-A!]LoS said:

    pls send me ur profs of cheet admons is fre leeg nd i deman

  72. Bloodyyy: (Weeaboo Nerd) - (XD ͜ʖXD) said:

    Wow drotalion. Rofl

    also solid: So if it doesnt matter where you cheat, you should http://etf2l.org/forum/user/94182/ ban this guy too. They using him as sniper to win scrims and get a higher div. Ofc on servers without logs or stv. Heard that from a couple of players here. never faced him tho.

  73. kzr_: gR. said:

    Messing with solid at MGE you sure like to dance with the devil haha. Providing of League demos was signing your ban, good job

  74. Useless: TC.Noobas said:

    This news post, so much golden comedy

  75. Jesse James said:

    You know, the thing is, I had nothing to hide, so I gave the AC team the Demos. They have something to hide so they had to lock the forum topic. This is my point of view..

  76. MightyMe: UbeR | said:

    AC admin will never say on what basis you have been banned, simply because this offers other cheaters insight in how they can avoid getting caught.
    It doesnt matter if you cheat in official or pub, look at tarkus and matnun.

    Also free baud

  77. Sonny Black: (Legend) - SUAVE said:

    Just looked it up, baud will be free in 4 days :D

  78. san alex said:

    abaud time!

  79. Spary said:

    I am xXxJewLord420xXx and I know how biased the etf2l admins are (especially towards banning legit Jewish names to be used in prem div. AHEM PERMZILLA AHEMMMMMMM)!!!!!!!!!

    #freedrotalion

  80. Starkie: ulti? - sniper said:

    perm ata mozez arbe bulbulim meod masriah

  81. this is evil evil said:

    Just had a look at the demo he recorded from his MGE against solid.. He’s definitely not using triggerbot in that fight. This seems very unusual since he was streaming while he was supposedly cheating.

    I would like to know how the admins thinks Drotalion is cheating, and provide proof of it. Links for demo’s would be appreciated, as the demo’s I’ve watched of Drotalion so far, was clean.

  82. droso: o/ said:

    ROFL this is evil evil, this has got to be one of the most obvious triggerbot I’ve seen in a while. You know nothing about hacks, do you?

  83. this is evil evil said:

    Droso: Maybe you should have a look at my steamprofile. “1 VAC ban(s) on record | Info
    2967 day(s) since last ban”

    Please provide a link to the demo you have seen of Drotalion where he’s cheating. Also provide your analysis and arguments of why you perceive it as cheating. Including frame numbers of the demo, for where you can clearly see he’s using triggerbot would be nice.

  84. this is evil evil said:

    I’m not saying that it’s not suspicious that someone of Drotalions stature beat Solid in MGE. I’m simply requesting the proof where you guys see he’s cheating, as I’m not convinced yet. I know Drotalion has a decent aim but his gamesense needs work. On a good day, I believe he could beat someone like Solid in MGE.

    I’ve been speaking to Drotalion on steam about this. He was on mumble with Solid and 8 others when he beat him in MGE. Solid was apparently raging at him, because he lost to Drotalion. At first, they thought he was joking, but they later realized it was legit rage. I find it suspicious that the guy who looses in MGE and blames his opponent for using triggerbot, is the one that gets to review the demo of his opponent where he was supposedly cheating, and gets to make the call about him using cheats or not. That is not fair.

    I implore different members of the ETF2L AC team, to review the demo’s once more, and to provide a thorough analysis to why they think Drotalion is cheating.

  85. Starkie: ulti? - sniper said:

    I implore you, darling

  86. Starkie: ulti? - sniper said:

    also “I know all about hacks because I got banned once 8 years ago”

  87. Qube: mib* said:

    Well played AC team

    Well played for Drotalion and the others

    Have fun in tf2 :*

  88. kaptain: wG said:

    “I implore different members of the ETF2L AC team, to review the demo’s once more, and to provide a thorough analysis to why they think Drotalion is cheating.”

    They did though, Solid’s comment a bit up:
    “First of all, I will never ever watch a demo when I’m biased. Then the “ragey AC kid” wasn’t the only one looking at the demo. Every single ac admin looked at it and gave their opinion. It’s not just 1 admin looking at 1 guy, we’re looking at those people together.”

  89. Tomu: BoyBrigade - MEGA$$ said:

    Admins won’t give you a “thorough analysis” otherwise more people would figure out the thought process behind it.

    Besides, Drotalions aim is so aids, anybody that aims in the same way as he does without the use of a triggerbot will not hit the same shots. His aim is literally all over the place, and its fine cos whenever his spastic aim has gone over a player his reaction time of 0.00000000001ms + ping meant he dealt a fuck ton of damage.

    Also please read the other comments so you realise that it isn’t Solid reviewing the demo.

  90. Falcon0408 said:

    “On a good day, I believe he could beat someone like Solid in MGE.”

    mge24/7 player known for ridiculously good aim vs shitter with barely 1k hours in tf2
    ?????????????
    maybe his stats are reset or something but he literally has 13.7 hours of scout total
    his vod was hilarious as well, idk how he hits 80 damage meatshots when solid isn’t even on his screen like 70% of the time

  91. Osman: 3.5 said:

    ahahah
    nice catch

  92. Mista said:

    “mge24/7 player known for ridiculously good aim vs shitter with barely 1k hours in tf2
    ?????????????”

    That’s some serious reasoning here.

  93. Legoras said:

    WTF 1 year ban for cheating? Cheaters should be banned FOREVER.

  94. Taylor Swift said:

    https://i.imgur.com/0cFAj2C.png lovely

  95. Max: Fusion said:

    Bloodyyy: HTT said:
    March 19th, 2014 at 09:06

    Wow drotalion. Rofl

    also solid: So if it doesnt matter where you cheat, you should http://etf2l.org/forum/user/94182/ ban this guy too. They using him as sniper to win scrims and get a higher div. Ofc on servers without logs or stv. Heard that from a couple of players here. never faced him tho.

    I can vouch for Bloodyyy. Its quite strange.

    This Drotalion case is all strange in my own personal opinion. I’ve watched the VOD and it is obvious that he was using some sort of an aim assist, but at the same time it seems like Droto is defending himself like he REALLY didn’t use any hax.

    Also Falcon you don’t call someone a shitter from his amount of hours.

    If hours of TF2=Skill, then Loveclop, Lazyfinger and tons of TF2 traders with 5k hours that knows jack shit about comp TF2 would’ve been prem.

    Falcon pls.

  96. AnimaL said:

    I like how people with no idea accuse someone of using aim assists after watching a single demo. Mike would never have made it if players would get banned from single dodgy aim demo.

  97. Spary said:

    NVM I just saw that german kid’s videos he is as guilty as putin converting babushkas in crimea.
    permzilla is still guilty of racism tho #holocaustneverforget

  98. hr said:

    yep Legoras get boomehs ass out of here for good, although I agree that one demo isn’t really enough to ban someone but you can tell from the way he aims he cannot predict solids movement in mge yet he hits so many shots on him, it’s pretty fucking blatant from what I can tell but maybe I’ve been aiming wrong all this time, maybe I should swing my mouse everywhere and have pretty dreadful movement and I can be the mge hero I so dream to be, I’m going to go download the match demo now as it wouldn’t let me do it last time.

  99. NuTRiCuLa: D925 - AVN said:

    good .

  100. Dennia: FAINT said:

    Tc noobas

  101. Morphine: (Cat Enthusiast) - 一一═デ︻ said:

    There was a time drotalion got 30+ kills as engineer in a viaduct game running widowmaker. Thought to myself ‘god, im getting outplayed so hard’. Hearing triggerbot (allegedly) makes me feel better about that game.

    log of said game: http://logs.tf/190409?highlight=76561198003032769

    meetshawwtt

  102. byte said:

    Good read, love ban posts; brings out the defiance in people ^_^

    Cheers

    Byte

  103. Linus pays the rent: [d¿s] - 007 said:

    ?

  104. DamnEasy said:

    his movement gave me aids

  105. Falcon0408 said:

    “If hours of TF2=Skill, then Loveclop, Lazyfinger and tons of TF2 traders with 5k hours that knows jack shit about comp TF2 would’ve been prem.”

    ofc that’s not what i’m saying. in 1k hours (and almost none as scout) there is no chance that he is getting good enough to beat someone who plays as much mge as solid
    also i called him a shitter because he’s enough of a twat to use cheats vs an AC admin and stream it

  106. Ggamefreak22 said:

    Im feeling like Im in Zoo and a priest is trying to tell me with his bible that god created the earth on the *insert day here*day – without having any proofs.

    But I guess thats how every ban post is like :D

  107. Lazyfinger: GolfWang_ - GOALstar said:

    What’s comp tf? Isn’t that a website?

  108. Spike Himself: TC said:

    another one bauds the dust

  109. jakeowaty said:

    Spike wiped the floor with the last comment.

  110. BaR: REVERTO said:

    › AnimaL: bar is shirt

  111. kzr_: gR. said:

    ffs like 3 or 4 months ago I wrecked this guy in a match and he didn’t even hit 2 straight shots and now he is consistently hitting solid with that ease, either hacks or super sayian, both are bannable

  112. ryan: lizard said:

    #freecoopxr

  113. zen1th: PRXSM - LEGO said:

    haha 3 or 4 months ago
    definitely not enough time to improve

  114. Jonaz said:

    you’re new players have as ego as big as whale and skill has low as street bench

  115. B4n4n4m4n: Ol'dog said:

    In regards to what Morphine is saying. I got into a fair few Engineer one vs one’s with him in that game, and almost all of the time I killed him, his movement is appalling. The fact that he picked up over 30 frags with the movement he had, makes me think there’s something fishy about him. Following that match he added me stating: “How are you doing so much damage with your shotgun, do you aim to a specific part of the body?” This just makes me think he doesn’t understand hit scan or dm fighting at all.
    ggwp

  116. Linus pays the rent: [d¿s] - 007 said:

    30 frags in a 30 minute game on viaduct isn’t really that special in itself you know

  117. vøid said:

    @SPIKE – SOON !

  118. DamnEasy said:

    Did anyone look at his face when he was playing mge vs solid? Who even plays like that, seriously i have never ever seen someone play like that before lol

  119. Gubbins: Op4 said:

    http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/stupid-kid.gif?w=500&h=375

  120. Tuto: 8-) said:

    I get 54 frags in a 30 min via game #engy#is#hard#class
    http://logs.tf/209942

    Please don’t request my demos etf2l AC team. #FreeDrotalion

  121. winterz: (è_é) said:

    “Did anyone look at his face when he was playing mge vs solid? Who even plays like that, seriously i have never ever seen someone play like that before lol”

    I thought he was gonna puke.

  122. sheepy dog's hand: (Cutest boy in TF2) - F! - Pander said:

    https://i.imgur.com/ExGCIDr.jpg

  123. Jesse James said:

    Well, first of all, thank you everyone who supported me and believed me that I am not cheating.
    I also want to thank those who watched the demo and thinks I am hacking. At least you didn’t blindly believed someone but get your own opinion.
    Considering 16 People claims they watched the mge demo and the demo got downloaded 9 times (1 time a friend + 1 time anticheat admins) those who has no idea about the whole thing but just enjoy the drama : keep enjoying the drama.

    But here is the thing. As long as I try to defend myself, there will be a drama.Unimportant the decision of AC team was right or wrong, they did a decision, they will not and can change that, since that would devastade their whole influence.
    Some people’s hacks needs weeks / months to be prooven. AC Team could proove me hacking in less than 6 Hours. Good job (!?)

    People who said I suck 2 weeks ago now say, that I was hacking soooooo long since weeks and all knew that, because it was so suspicious. Well why did nobody asked an anticheat admin then ?

    I will not defend myself anymore. Will just accept the punishment. Not because I am hacking. Because I told to him I want to support and cooperate with etf2l team. I don’t want any drama, so those who loves drama can shut up again and wait for the next drama… whatever. We see us next year.

  124. Jesse James said:

    I told Lazybear * ( Last part – …. Because I told to Lazybear I want to support and cooperate …)

  125. Night said:

    http://www.twitch.tv/drotalion/b/511672092

    Watch closely the reload animation at 26min02sec :>

  126. DamnEasy said:

    But its so obvious, your movement is like a player that just downloaded the game and tries to dodge with retarded jumping and running in walls, your face expression is so fake its funny, also your aim is so terrible its not possible you can even hit most of the shots you just randomly move your mouse around and shoot so weird, also when you aimed over solid your scattergun would stop reloading and do weird stuff, like its so obvious.

  127. Spade said:

    C’mon guys let’s all take cheap shots at someone that did something stupid and got banned for a year!

  128. hr said:

    ‘Some people’s hacks needs weeks / months to be prooven. AC Team could proove me hacking in less than 6 Hours. Good job’
    – That’s what happens when you are so fucking blatant about it lol, why is this guy still posting

  129. KnTRL: DTM said:

    http://puu.sh/7Can4/aed3f3e476.png

  130. PuzZle: Boys - GG said:

    I just watched the MGE vod to hear Solid’s sexy voice

  131. GeaR: Epsilon said:

    I am no ac expert for sure, but the part where he did the 90°-180° flick-meatshots was definitely the best ^.^

  132. Russian Guyovich: (Surging Meat Cable) - [T-A!]LoS said:

    ok Lance Armstrong

  133. lune said:

    Once a cheater, Always a cheater

  134. AnimaL said:

    bar is pretty shirt, never forgotten

  135. Gubbins: Op4 said:

    AC will never prove anything. This is exactly what we need and don’t even know we want. Trust me, that can of worms would kill this league.

  136. Bubschen!!!: AMG - CGAY&BB said:

    popcorp deserves a ban aswell for his point of view. Plz stop being like you are!

  137. nevier: (XD ͜ʖXD) said:

    hey dro do you remember when you called my mum a whore, me an honorless bastard and my family a piece of shit cause no reason?
    now you got your karma :)

  138. fnordi: PrettyGay said:

    that movement though

  139. turkuaz said:

    well i dont really believe an engineer really needs cheating and i dont think he would want to sacrifice his etf2l history for some shotgun kills . i dont think he was cheating

  140. Asaaj said:

    Did a pyro need aimbot?

    Wasn’t there a pyro ages ago that got banned for aimbotting?

    I doubt the AC admins would just ban somebody out of spite.

  141. fraac: JOHN - CENATION said:

    turkuaz: he wanted to get into 6v6 as scout

  142. MARS^: (ETF2L Donator) - ANIMA - Nein said:

    he wanted to trial for us when we were looking for a new scout(HL)

  143. Limp.: EPA said:

    LOLOL the nerves of drotalion :DDD
    Clearest triggerbot EVER, the demo in topic is full of trigger whoaw. wtf why even try act innocent :DD

  144. Piotr Witczak: inVincible said:

    RIP BEST SNIPER EU YUKINO [*]

    btw. haahahhahahahahah

  145. jakeowaty said:

    http://www.twitch.tv/drotalion