Ban Overturned

Date October 29, 2013

NiCOOOO Ban Overturned

Some time ago we banned France NiCO god's hand for 6 months for Script Abuse. France NiCO god's hand contested the ban and worked with us to prove his innocence, going out of the way to provide additional evidence. After thorough review, we have concluded that France NiCO god's hand was not using a banned script after all. This means that NiCO is unbanned with immediate effect and is considered a legitimate player, and his team’s match results will be restored.

The anti-cheat team would like to say the following:

First of all, we want to apologize to NiCO and his team for the trouble we have caused them. It is inexcusable that a totally innocent player can be banned for something they did not do. They lost time and their season has been damaged by our mistake and we apologize for that.

We banned NiCO because we believed what he did was simply not possible without the use of a script. Following the ban, NiCO and his team remained calm and courteous, and wanted to prove NiCO’s innocence. We immediately agreed because it is easy to prove whether NiCO was using a script or not. NiCO was patient and worked directly with the AC team – putting in hours of work to prove his innocence.

After reviewing the evidence NiCO provided, we concluded that we had made a mistake and that NiCO is completely innocent. We have learned from this mistake, and will strive to not make this mistake again.

We’d like to make it clear that this ban was appealed only because of the specifics of the script rule (if it is possible to prove that something is achievable without a script) and the cooperative attitude of the banned player. Most bans issued by our staff (e.g. for using cheats) are not subject to appeal.

68 Comments

  1. quintosh: T9! said:

    lol

  2. Setsul: PrettyGay said:

    wtf

  3. Razkar: cj.com said:

    lol

  4. iikq: sirkkels said:

    1000 APM

  5. Oupa: RF | - Nave said:

    wait this isnt april…

  6. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - FAINT said:

    lol

  7. Obnoxious: said:

    so maybe should you explain what he was doing that causes the ban in order to put out any doubt for everyone ? and put here the legit script so that everyone could use it ?

  8. Gas13: niveous. said:

    It’s good to know you’ve got balls to admit the mistake. I thought this could never happen. My respect to AC team.

  9. iikq: sirkkels said:

    suddenly 5 minutes before official

  10. rag!: jtbf said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zl5x8r9Bs

  11. Guzzler said:

    JUSTICE

  12. quell: GoodE said:

    yeah maybe a bigger explanation is in order!!

  13. ?| . . |?: TC said:

    free baud

  14. loopster said:

    HAHAHA . happy for his mate

  15. vaati said:

    win.

  16. f_blue: ist doof said:

    So basically he doesn’t deny using a movement script, and I assume he will keep using it, but he proved that what the script does can be achieved manually? If that’s the case, I want to see the script and I want to see him play without it.

  17. Gero: [NoL] said:

    what

  18. Kemor: ; said:

    Fucking bullshit

  19. xzr: puppeli said:

    fucking supermanfingers if you can keep that shit up for 2 hours every night

    bullshit :D

  20. Opti: top5rocket said:

    It the script is allowed, can we have a sample of it pls?

  21. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - FAINT said:

    he doesnt use a script he has just parkinson and presses buttons really fast

  22. smziii: (Legendary Ratehacks) - FAINT said:

    + should go to starcraft ez win

  23. nTraum: \V/ Gold - LAME said:

    what did he do that looked sof fishy?

  24. Permzilla: (Legend) - LANTURTLE - WiK? said:

    @nTraum – he spams ADADAD… very quickly.

  25. mrwhizz said:

    this is hilarious

  26. Admirable: (Toucan Ambassador) said:

    sorry nico
    fairplay AC team

  27. skeej: (ETF2L Donator) - MEAT - Fe | said:

    If you combine the well known null-canceling movement script with some creative aliasing that rebinds movement keys to different directions on every keypress you can get some crazy fast movement that’s still achievable without the use of scripts … I’m guessing that’s what he did?

    Anyway, very honorable of the admins to admit their mistake and do it within a relatively short period as well. People still mad cuz they got wrecked by this kid I guess?

  28. Casual: prtyboiz - T⑨ said:

    +1 for actually admitting you made a mistake and correcting it

  29. dAGNER: SORA⚡️ said:

    NICO! LET’S GO BOWLING!

  30. Bloodyyy: (Weeaboo Nerd) - (XD ͜ʖXD) said:

    #freebaud

  31. NiCO god's hand: TLR said:

    i also reach 300 apm on HoN guys §§§§ 2 EZ

  32. LaMqTa: fenneks said:

    give nico a cookie admins!

  33. Hallow: KKK - P.O.P said:

    Skeej I’m pretty sure he just spams arrowkeys (stupid frenchie doesn’t use wasd) really fast.

  34. fraac: JOHN - CENATION said:

    No, he doesn’t just spam arrow keys because that wouldn’t be a banned script. He was doing something that appeared to gain an advantage, like a demo charge turn script, but (apparently) without the script. It’s the sort of situation where the usual mod opaqueness is really helpful, thanks guys.

  35. THE_WILLY: Snus said:

    Yeah, too bad that this is the only case when someone has proven his innocence here on ETF2L. Because normally it goes like this: admin reviews the demo – says that you’re cheating – ban.

  36. fraac: JOHN - CENATION said:

    “@nTraum – he spams ADADAD… very quickly.”

    Wait, is this a serious answer? How would anyone know this was bannable? Regardless of whether you can achieve an effect manually, you can’t ban for things people have to guess are bannable. Are pyro ‘panic’ scripts banned?

  37. MR.SVINS: alus - P.O.P said:

    Wannabes trying to be better by using some bs loser tools :DD nico, night, zarix all french trader cheater who i absolutely beast with any class. baud also cheater

  38. Permzilla: (Legend) - LANTURTLE - WiK? said:

    @fraac We believed he was spamming it too quickly for him to be doing it himself, people are welcome to spam ADADADAD as much as they want, but it’s not allowed to be scripted too fast for human hands. Panic scripts, if they are what I think they are, disrupt the hitbox and therefore explicitly banned in the rules.

  39. PuzZle: Boys - itsallgood said:

    RIP div3 first place :(

  40. Kaneco said:

    Nice work! I wwonder why things couldnt be more explicit from the start tho? When the ban was announced I asked what kind of script it was and what was the reasoning behing the ban

    Still thanks for actually being human, making mistakes and admitting them

  41. doks said:

    french guys have become so good at cheating they can cheat their way out of a ban.
    veeeriii snriiikiii

  42. AnimaL said:

    wait what

    when was null canceling movement scripts banned and why

  43. AnimaL said:

    actually in rules it says that null canceling scripts are not banned so why are ppl talking about it?! what was the ban for then?

  44. Tuto: TCM - 8-) said:

    Fair play AC, respect for admitting your mistake +1

  45. rsz said:

    toplel

  46. easyGame said:

    dont worry be happy

  47. SabaSaba: [hePPa] said:

    Admins are only humans, belive it or not.

  48. Marmite: 9 ☆ said:

    haha rofl love u nico

  49. jx53 said:

    k9k

  50. Permzilla: (Legend) - LANTURTLE - WiK? said:

    @AnimaL – As you said the null cancelling script is allowed, and i don’t even see anyone mentioning it here since it was said on his banpost that we thought he was using a script that spammed adadadadad (or in his case arrow keys) too quickly to do manually, but it turns out he isn’t.

  51. Munky: .Qc` - CSPB said:

    Anyone who has played the guy on MGE knows exactly what it is for. He has a script which makes him move side to side a lot then warp a little around the screen. Not sure how useful it would be in officials but it takes you a while to learn how he moves. And it is a script as there are a few other French players around doing the exact same thing.

    But who knows maybe I am just chatting shit.

  52. Zarix said:

    gg

  53. konr: idd. said:

    So many times people have been like “but the null cancelling movement script was allowed??!?!?!” even though literally not a single fucking person said that had anything to do with it lol

  54. Shabbaman: GoT<3 - HoT<3 said:

    Moonroach demands justice.

  55. crouton: LEGO said:

    Ok so here’s what I don’t understand.

    With a null-cancelling script you can hold one side and spam the other. By using this method it’s not hard to spam quickly enough that you essentially just stand still, and you have “perfect” movement (no delay between pressing, and no two keys at the same time).

    Surely anything nico did would’ve been slower than this, so why would it be near bannable.

  56. Tack: kp/ said:

    @Munky : You poor little thing, was it that hard to understand how he moves ? You shall get your sweety tonight my dear (just trolling, no offense)

    @crouton : Some guys, who were close to the admins might have said, ho look, this guy keeps raping me and he eats baguette in the morning, you shall fucking ban this fucker… More seriously, I have been spamming my A and D keys so hard in scout duels, for so long, that if Nico got wrongly banned because of it, and me not (with my 1 year ban in etf2l), it’s simply because the admins are bullshit…
    “it was said on his banpost that we thought he was using a script that spammed adadadadad (or in his case arrow keys) too quickly to do manually” <== And this, is really bullshit. They are admins, yet when you are a baguette eater it's becoming more complicated (just trolling on the last sentence eh, making things clear).
    But they could just have double checked, I believe it's very simple to check if it was done "too quickly to be done manually", of course, my beliefs can be wrong, but still, he was a baguette eater, you know ?

  57. Setsul: PrettyGay said:

    Does that script leave the hitbox “intact”?

  58. fraac: JOHN - CENATION said:

    Even if it’s not quite too quick to be manual, why wouldn’t you script it?

    Is the medic crossbow reload script that Admirable is talking about on vtv bannable?

  59. Kaneco said:

    Thats another thing entirely fraac, the xbow bug is very recent and only appeared yesterday with the new update with the xbow buff, but it does look like a serious exploit

  60. Starkie: 7 - sniper said:

    this would never have happened under sonnyblacks reign
    fuck permzilla

  61. Dak1ne said:

    April fool ?

  62. Night said:

    Add me to discuss the price of the script.
    B/O: 20 buds

  63. Tarkus: aHn said:

    nico i told ya u gonna get banned..

    noobfaggotmotherfucker

  64. Loch: dyn. said:

    intredasting to see how he plays on lan !

  65. AnimaL said:

    exactly crouton ppl with null cancelling scripts dont appear to hack but a guy without script who basically needs to do twice as many keypresses to do same as guys with the script looks “dodgy”

    it just does not make sense

  66. Swedish Santa: 105 said:

    So hes now a record holder for most actions per minute?

  67. konr: idd. said:

    All he does is spam the movement keys so it’s tough to hit him in mge cause he’s jittering all over the fucking place. That shit doesn’t work in anything other than 1v1, obviously.

  68. quintosh: T9! said:

    he was never using the pvh script and permzilla said it in a ban post