Comments on: Community initiatives, rule and admin changes, player bans

By: klu

klu — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:33:19 +0000

*in this case

By: klu

klu — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:29:25 +0000

I’ll probably get banned for this, I don’t really care and it wouldn’t be the first time anyway.

D2M is as two faced as they come. I don’t know what his agenda is, but draping every post in safety smilies and fake kindness certainly seems to be working for him. Anyone that thinks he is genuine is massively naive IMO.

As for quad’s ban, it’s an utter shambles. Either the admins would have posted conclusive proof of him cheating if he did in fact cheat, or they fact would have posted some vague non-descript terms in an effort to get the masses off their back about a controversial ban. Which sounds most familiar?

Gryzor is a cunt, I rarely get along with him but from what I can tell he is telling the truth is this case and is only doing so to expose some issues that needs to be addressed.

By: Pedman

Pedman — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:37:02 +0000

Buffalo Bill:
Yea thats why gryzor got banned, for words. Its a reason why gryzor got banned and in my eyes a wrong ban.

And the fact that quads ban is way different then other bans on etf2l is pretty obvious, this is not a normal case to differ each others bans.

Like I said before I have made my point, I will stop here.

By: rawr

rawr — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:21:54 +0000

Some might argue that regardless of the authenticity of gryzor’s comments, they have made quads case exceptional. I doubt many other cases have had a former AC admin use them as a case in point to expose the frailties of the system….

By: quad

quad — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:05:43 +0000

Isent second chance when you have got your first chance to play in the league?

Fact(and posted serveral times):
I have never played an etf2l match.

Nor is any of the evidence valid..

By: Buffalo Bill

Buffalo Bill — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:28:05 +0000

Pedman, why should he get a second chance when no other person who’s been banned by ETF2L has been given one? Why should he be excepted? Who says what Gryzor posted is true? No offense to you, Gryzor, but all we have is your word for it that that is what happened. The word of 1 man who isn’t exactly on friendly terms with a lot of people, including many people in the admin team on ETF2L. Who is to say that what you say is actually the truth, and not just an attempt at getting back at them?

(I’m not saying it is, but I assume you see my point)

By: Pedman

Pedman — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:06:01 +0000

gryzor you know were I stand you should not even have to ask.

I have made my point of this.

By: gryzor

gryzor — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:52:58 +0000

I don’t really care much about any “admins”, Exfane. D2M/Kopster/Racio-crew seems to have purged the last remaining competent people from the roster, spare deneusbeer and snowie. The rest have recently left or are just “inactive”. The league runs itself, more or less, if people would just confirm their scores and play their games. Everything is automated. Removing people who could actually better the league and “sit on top” like they do now is just sad. I feel kind of bad for the true heroes behind this league who has just given up and doing other things, while morons like D2M rape the good name and fuck with nice people, trying to make TF2 better (like that now famous mapmaker!).

So, what are the “admins” good for now, anyway, except for doing panic-bans from league play/forums, insulting people in fore mentioned forums and also on IRC, for no obvious reason?

Confirming scores teams “forgot to” and setting default-dates?

You tell me. I can’t come up with a single answer. Safe to say, it’s pretty hard to keep the “crap off ETF2L”, when the crap you mention is spewing from its very core at the moment. Regarding the “AC” you mention, this has all be answered above, so I don’t even know why you bring it up again.

By: Exfane

Exfane — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:42:41 +0000

Pedman, ofc you should have the option to vent your opinion.
However my comment was made to quad’s “posse”, stop spamming the forums with his problems.

I dont know anything about quad’s case, just that his vids look very fuckin dodgy. It could still be that he is banned while he’s innocent. Unlucky for him that there is no way for appeal.
Showing new demos wont work; he couldve been cheating on just that one demo.
I think i dont even have to explain why he cant explain his dodgy aim/movement on his demos to the admins, that makes sense to the admins.

If everything is going so wrong with the AC team of etf2l, why not make a seperate website for it. Gryzor seems the perfect man for having such a site. Keep the crap off etf2l and take your shit to an admin. The admins will never read these forums, agree with the post your made and unban you.

By: gryzor

gryzor — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:54:37 +0000

Before I forget it:

Fun Fact: I was to present my findings regarding Quad to AC directly, before D2M decided to pick on some poor mapmaker and trying to belittle him in every way possible. When I asked him not to, he banned me from the forum and continued the IRC-rage, using profane and clueless words (as witnessed by numerous people as well — whom question if D2M is really fit for this). After this, I decided a public article might put him in his place and make him step back and actually STOP HIS BULLSHIT. The result, you can see above. Tons of lies, punishments and more namecalling. I guess my tactic didn’t work, but at least people won’t really care much next time D2M goes on a namecalling spree (usually happens after 1-2 months of ‘being nice’).

Good luck (again).