Comments on: Season 5 news: provisional divisions, playoff, map pool and dates – another ban

By: Ozone

Ozone — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:58:26 +0000

Which time is the divs presented?

By: cheetah

cheetah — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:05:02 +0000

*there

By: cheetah

cheetah — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:04:10 +0000

agree, last seasons teams (made their matches) should be top of the list (the time of their participation request is not important as long it was before the deadline)
but please don’t make a difference between dropped and new teams, but also agree that they should come second
nevertheless their should always be 50+ spots to fill up

By: Shabbaman

Shabbaman — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:20:40 +0000

@cheetah: “Having played (and completed!) a season should earn you a spot next season.
simply don’t work”

Think it through. I didn’t say participating teams should be automatically enlisted for a new season did I? It’s quite easy to put all formerly participating teams on the top of the list, then all new contestants (and all teams that dropped at the bottom, imho). If currently participating teams don’t earn their spot, why are we even bothering with the promotion/relegation matches? The current teams are worth a lot for the ETF2L: these are the teams that make the league consistent. These are the teams where the admins don’t have problems rating them. If there’d be only a small number of NEW teams joining the league it might be possible (or at least: easier) for the admins to accomodate more teams.

By: xtala

xtala — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:45:57 +0000

Tbh, if you have to fold cause you miss a season in ETF2L, you’d most likely not make it anyway.
There are plenty of other leagues out there (not the same quality I know).

By: cheetah

cheetah — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:36:20 +0000

teams already rating themself :P

but sure, if they go like we are high on pub, so we must be at least mid on 6on6,
then this could get awful

By: RaCio

RaCio — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:10:02 +0000

I Agree with iller.

If it’s really is to much work then consider options to solve that problem. Don’t avoid that problem by letting 50 teams not play.

You could consider appointing deputy admins who take care of the placements each season. Im sure you could find more then enough players willing to do that.

Or take a look at the idea m3tal posted(letting teams rate themselves).

By: Iller

Iller — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:09:42 +0000

I think the 250 team limit is affecting the community and the growth of the game in a very bad way. Sure, the admins are doing a great job and I am grateful for that, but why have the number 250 as a limit ?
This sounds a bit strange, especially considered the number of teams is slightly greater than that.
Why use an artifical limit that puts some of the teams aside ?
Yes, it would mean slightly more work for the admins, but the work sorting out everything for around 300 teams shouldn’t be that much harder than for 250 teams ?
If this really is totally impossible maybe it’s time to search for one more admin ? (I might be able to go admin myself if I’m needed.)

This 250 team limit makes it almost impossible to form new teams (I know from experience. Me and some other guys almost had a team ready that folded yesterday because of this), since the players rather take any possibility to join an empty spot in the choosen 250 to be able to join season 5. Several of those teams in the waiting list will fold because of this.

This limit will ensure that that TF2 doesn’t grow to more that 250 teams maximum.
Sure, there are other leagues, but this is seen as the main most important league by many teams.

By: cheetah

cheetah — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:01:12 +0000

Having played (and completed!) a season should earn you a spot next season.
simply don’t work

if teams are dropping after the season, they get a spot and after two weeks or maybe more, the admins realize that the team is dropped.
It’s the best solution that every team have to confirm their participation.

But maybe adding a system, where teams you are talking about can add 2-3 days before new ones would be nice.

By: Shabbaman

Shabbaman — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:49:04 +0000

We participated in two previous seasons and we never missed a match. We did miss season 4 because signups were in the middle of a holiday. If it wasn’t for someone from team 2 (well, tl;dr) I might not have noticed that signups were open for season 5, missing out from this season as well. Luckily not, but I certainly wouldn’t mind if this system would change. Having played (and completed!) a season should earn you a spot next season.

I’d say it’s a good idea to exchange opinions on how we’d like to see this working before the start of season 6.