Silence before the storm, cheaters galore.

Date April 11, 2009

Jokes were made throughout the community about silence around the anti-cheat team. It took us a bit longer this time, because we uncovered a new way of tracking cheaters and stumbled upon a lot more than we could have expected. All playoffs and season places affected by this will be adjusted accordingly, as soon as possible. I will keep it short because the list itself is quite long. The following players have all received a ban of 1 year from all ETF2L activities.

While researching one of the above mentioned cheaters, we ran into this guy who was using a very blatant aim bot. He is not registered at etf2l (yet), but we decided to be safe in this case and ban him in advance.

  • “cN exzntrc” STEAM_0:0:20225226

We sincerely hope this is the last time we have to act on cheating, but we will definitely keep our eyes open.

467 Comments

  1. emptynoflow: (^-^)v said:

    GJ as always… fuck em up real bad

  2. Nivz: ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ - 2strong said:

    lol wth

  3. vocaL said:

    ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL KONDOR WAS SO OBVIOUS

  4. Contra: Be said:

    lol couldnt you wait till tomorrow

  5. archu: rda said:

    GJ admins

  6. destructo said:

    gg tf2

  7. appe said:

    KondoR? That’s unexpected and pretty sad if it’s true.

  8. samura1 said:

    I shocked

  9. AntiRox said:

    WOW amazing

  10. Iller: tGa said:

    Wtf ??
    How many cheaters are there ?
    Probably much more I’m afraid..
    Good job admins. Lets find and ban most, or preferably all, cheaters before season 5.

  11. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    roflmao xD kondor and hohenheim this fking bulgarian flamekid-ulowbitchwithhaxx omfg

  12. Relentless said:

    Hell some unexpected names that I see there :(

  13. Oggy said:

    seems krol has turned his hax off now…

  14. Rcoket: cb. said:

    I dont believe that all of them are cheaters. Blow,Duracell,Berg,Kondor, i think you are wrong.

  15. Netsky said:

    as I was asked to do this out of tradition:

    Rick Rolled!

  16. andhraya: .:PBP:. said:

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Leave pika alone!!!!!!

  17. J3 said:

    loool n1 admins good joke ^^

  18. Psyche said:

    I Lost faith in the etf2l admins the moment I read this:

    Fyr – Aimbot

  19. Oggy said:

    and LOL at vicci and sraam ustedes son bobo’s o que

  20. waebi: ‹Con› said:

    busted. AYE.

    Jonni, i guess you did a good job when we asked for MOAR!!!1 bans.

  21. Demourge: EPA said:

    suprise suprise .. 9 out of 10 I played against and said cheated, I got right! +10 for Demsii, har har.

  22. RaDiKaL said:

    GL HF Spaniards ;)

  23. SANJIK said:

    OMG

  24. method said:

    fyr? no wai.

  25. gryzor said:

    Buy jonni or winnie a beer if you see them, they’ve done some awesome work the past weeks. Hats off!

  26. Hohenheim: ? - [MC] said:

    WTF? JOKE OR?I new I’m hated but.. :z

  27. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    +100000 + a pizza for demsii!

  28. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:

    sc00ts getting banned all round :D

  29. Onizuka said:

    omg >_<

  30. Iller: tGa said:

    What ?
    It was all a joke ?

  31. L!nc0ln said:

    Good job my dear AC Admins!

  32. destructo said:

    rus makes me smile ))

  33. GeneSIS^: [MIPC] said:

    GJ admins
    nice job

  34. berg said:

    great work, but I think ur new way is failing, at my case anyway

  35. Extremer said:

    lol?

  36. KTJ: k0 said:

    thats imposible…

  37. Hitoshura: -HH- said:

    I notice a few of them are in teams that won their division. If they are gonna get removed that is gonna fuck up the playoffs quite hard:/

  38. waiz said:

    rofl, very good joke

  39. Iller: tGa said:

    So, Blow for example would be a a soldier who uses…aimbot ?
    Homing missiles ?

  40. ChOun: iCon said:

    1st APRIL ! OHOHOHO SO FUNNY ADMINS !

    nice anti cheat team LOL !

    Ridiculous.

  41. BloW: element // said:

    soooo f*cking funny winneh . No evidence , no eplanations . Get banned for honest playing … tf2 has a huge future with WInneh .
    PS
    soldier with aimbot (realy pro anti cheat admin srsly , good job LoL (c) Heliana )

  42. Sabinrenex said:

    guys,the matter at hand no is not about those people..its about the entire season 4 games in thier divisions..it is end season and frankly if u let cheat teams into highter divisions..you shoot yourself in the leg

    omg its CHEATERS won div3,with a CHEATER in thier team..not sure how much he actually played but why they should be going div2?

    nameless tf2 HACKERS/FUCKERS won div3 ..from random check of 1 game i see durcell playing and blow was the leader so there may be a connection..in either case they CAN NOT go div2 next season and needs to be banned from etf2l for that

    extansia we played just..like..last night and some guy no tack did SUPER 180 MEGA WIERD kill…destructo may have saw it but again they leave marks all over the place+one person caught hacking

    too bad about fake aside from that son of a bitch racist mario and nighthawk i like them,sigh

    anyway like i said before the div standings as they are cannot remain like this..take us at tension we just suspected waffle cheat and kicked his sorry ass out. and in some guys cases marks were ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE. so becuase they used cheaters and to set an example those teams cannot play etf2l next season on higher div..its not just to the teams that played versus them and its not just to the other guys who see this is bullshit

  43. Mole: DCSB - Hey dats! said:

    I BLAME ANAKIN FUCK YOU ANAKIN ITS ALL YOUR FAULT YOUR WRONG AND DONT KNOW SHIT!

    Just getting default procedure under way. :)

  44. Mirelin: alus said:

    Can we see proof of all this? :)

  45. reCon said:

    wtf KONDOR? :D

  46. op said:

    KondoR cheater???????????????????????????????????????????????? No fucking way, i played with him for some time and no fucking way has he ever cheated never! Shit job admin, v shit job.

  47. Sabinrenex said:

    uh last lines needs to have “fair” added in them,keke

  48. fRz!: CGAY&BB said:

    WTF KONDOR? :/

    GAME CONTROL!!!

  49. caliban: fail said:

    only 1 year hmmm

    if one of those haxx0r have the gutts i woould like to know what were you thinking??rly i would like to know why

    confess

  50. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    shut up deeK schpeeK

  51. AnimaL said:

    kondor with aimbot? oh yeah, gj admins, i think its time to end sniffing w/e stuff ur sniffing atm

  52. AnAkIn said:

    OH NOES MOLE SPOTTED ME!!!1!!11OH NOES!!11!1

  53. Relentless said:

    I like Drama.

  54. daf: yoyotech - Hey dats! said:

    Hay DeeK, you were right, vicii was the next KondoR !!

  55. skinnie: TCM said:

    finally kondor banned

    gj admins

  56. gLongas said:

    ehhh guys, someone can believe it?. winneh one question, have you brain?.

  57. op said:

    ‘shut up deeK schpeeK’

    how about eat aids you little prick.

    daf i still belive he doesnt …..

  58. f0rce said:

    Relentless,
    congratz! you win tze internetz

  59. The Postman said:

    rofl
    gj admins :)

  60. steel said:

    dmg. played 2 LANs against Team Empire, where Kondor was at that moment.

    I saw him in real-time LAN game – same perfomance as in online game.

    ETF2L anticheat-team, i hope that was just a mistake. -4,-5 kills from kondor – it’s a normal thing, but using cheats – he’s not that guys to do that!

  61. caliban: fail said:

    KondoR cheater???????????????????????????????????????????????? No fucking way, i played with him for some time and no fucking way has he ever cheated never! Shit job admin, v shit job.

    dont whine it’S normal in cs scene…..u can never be sure

  62. Rcoket: cb. said:

    Very funny xD

  63. BvD: flowerpower/ said:

    caliban you’re risking a ban for yourself here. Keep it down.

    GJ ADMINS

  64. UPS said:

    NightHawk cheater? Are you kidding me? This cannot be true :(

    Sraam,Fyr,Abra? I can’t beleave it :(

  65. Blade said:

    what the FUCKING SHIT is THIS!?!?!?!

  66. caliban: fail said:

    lol? @BvD ?

  67. BvD: flowerpower/ said:

    Sorry caliban wrong one, I meant DeeK

  68. op said:

    caliban fuk ya ma, kl

  69. Janman: k0 said:

    SHIT JOB WINNEH AND JONNI

  70. cook: FB said:

    He was quoting someone, BvD, lol’d at daf.

  71. xncc.: flowerpower/ - wayne tag said:

    i played with 4 people out of that list, and what i saw, their aimbot has to be the worst aimbot ever.. keep up the good work.

  72. toto said:

    abra, ahahahahaha

    so funny))

  73. Agron: Relic said:

    What? This cant be!?!?

    It’s not SUNDAY YET YOU ADMINS YOU. BANS ON SUNDAYS PLS… :(

  74. ChOun: iCon said:

    New Steam Groupe :

    “I’m ban from etf2l” ==> funny groupe :)

  75. Relentless said:

    lol @ Agron

  76. KondoR: uns said:

    winneh paranoia ftw! :)
    http://smages.com/i/ba/d4/bad461c508f5ae876485960e7917b002.jpg

  77. Slick: Epsilon said:

    wtf not much frenchies….whats going on!

  78. Iller: tGa said:

    I’m starting to become a bit sceptical.
    Ok, admins, you will not make the proofs public, but how reliable are your proofs ?

    A soldier with aimbot (as in the case with Blow) just seems very odd since it wouldn’t help him in any way (unless you can have aimbot just for your shotgun).
    I’m not saying you are wrong, but the large number of people claiming they are innocent makes me wonder.

  79. Janzu^ said:

    I give u admins one good tip: Zerotolerance against cheaters..

  80. Janzu^ said:

    if u cheat U dont play never in ETF2L

  81. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    needs more banning of people from countries which in general possess a lessened grasp of the english language, it makes these threads more funny

    if you just ban some jerk from england who knows how to type and spell then what’s the point :(

  82. Healbot: [MsT] said:

    if this keep up, winneh team might win a match once in a while ;o

  83. gLongas said:

    I give u admins one good tip: http://www.buyabrain.com

  84. Mirelin: alus said:

    guys, there is no sense to keeping whining, and saying shit things like “This is not true”

    Admins is admins, if they wish, they will ban everyone there. And of course they will dont give link to proof, or smthing like that.

  85. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    “but the large number of people claiming they are innocent makes me wonder.”

    because the second a cheater is caught he admits it and sulks off, right???

  86. caliban: fail said:

    confess why don’t u have the balls to say it was stupid as shit… -.-

  87. FarcrY: popkõrns said:

    phew, when i got this link, i thought i was caught :O

  88. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    epic lol @ agron xD ololol

    “how about eat aids you little prick.”

    yes, guy on the internet!

  89. Pandello said:

    wanna proof’s for KondoR Blow and Duracell bans

  90. Slick: Epsilon said:

    funny u say that Iller…. was reading a recrutement post on tack quoted from manov….


    Yap he is a good scout… and he is good also at soldier (with shotgun) :D
    Try him ! ;)

    edit : Wtf with this up ? you will pay for that tack ! :P

  91. eoN^ said:

    Thank you admins, i think i just pee’d my pants laughing so hard at these people…

    They cheat but ive seen them play and sometimes played with them and to be honest… they where shit…

    Haha man i cant believe that :> but gj finding them keep it up ;)

  92. Mwaru: url said:

    OMFG!!!! cant believe it

  93. GeaR: Epsilon said:

    WOHOO!!! D# C# F# G# A#

    I believe in admins. GJ

  94. cheetah: fa» - [SpA] said:

    even with this is true (hope not)
    what are the consequences for the teams?

    default loss????

  95. AnAkIn said:

    Iller, you don’t seem to know what cheats are capable of since you think that aimbot is not possible with soldier.

  96. Abra said:

    Have no words….ETF2L Admins ban winneh or those guy who do this bans….I have allmost all demos from every game and can give them to normal admin//No Aimbot just hands…

    Again— this is total shit… I Play with all guys that are banned and believe me they dont use cheats…

  97. CrossNoFair said:

    The mythical “new way of tracking cheaters” excuse to ban ppl without any proof works once again. Sounds to me like the admins from ETF2L are using some psych’s help.

  98. op said:

    You can get e-aids, pff. Serious though if you know fuck all dont comment, stay in div 5 where you know the players. KOOL

  99. cook: FB said:

    [FB] The PRODUCT of a Cook: oh dear, you naughty boy you.
    Hohen: ……
    Hohen: fuck them
    Hohen: :Z
    [FB] The PRODUCT of a Cook: haha.
    Hohen: I always used an aimbot

  100. Iller: tGa said:

    No, of course I don’t expect all cheaters to confess immediately, but usually some do.
    I don’t say I know these people are innocent, I’m just a little bit sceptical.

  101. Hohenheim: ? - [MC] said:

    Fuck you cook :Z

  102. Relentless said:

    “phew, when i got this link, i thought i was caught :O”

    I take this as a confession? ;DDDD

  103. Gideon said:

    OH SHI~

  104. Abra said:

    F*CK I MUST TO SHOOT IN WALLS OR BE SO CRAPY BAD SCOUT TO DO NOT BE BANNED???

    Did not expect such dull administration on etf2l///

  105. AnAkIn said:

    Well, yea, it’s rare that cheaters will admit cheating.

  106. hentai-kun: ORKZORKZORKZORK said:

    # AnAkIn: said:
    April 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
    Well, yea, it’s rare that cheaters will admit cheating.

    especially if they have nothing to admit.

  107. SamurAi said:

    GJ !! U CHEATERS

    Fyr is not cheater!

  108. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    HERE YOU CAN ASK JONNI FOR SOME PR00FS ON TEAMSPEAK: 88.198.26.114:8767

  109. [Sam] said:

    fuck you admins!

  110. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    oh wait, you banned abra, i retract my comment re: the english skill of the banned users

    fuck yes abra you go boy, fight the good fight!!

  111. Hohenheim: ? - [MC] said:

    That wasn’t a confession though ;o

  112. cook: FB said:

    http://steamcommunity.com/groups/thebaconexplosion

    Cheaters repent, sign up now!

  113. gLongas said:

    if you have a good improve in this game u are cheat man, no more

  114. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    i am cheat man
    the final boss of mega man 9

  115. Extremer said:

    TIRED OF CHEATERS RUINING YOUR GAME? DO YOU LIKE BACON? YOU SHOULD JOIN THE BACON EXPLOSION!
    http://steamcommunity.com/groups/thebaconexplosion

  116. Socrates said:

    No fucking way….

  117. Iller: tGa said:

    “Iller, you don’t seem to know what cheats are capable of since you think that aimbot is not possible with soldier.”

    True, I have never tried a cheat for myself (except sv_cheats 1 on my own server for practice).
    But how would such a cheat for the soldier work ? Aimbot for the shotgun I can understand, but what about the rocket launcher ?
    Homing missiles would be completely obvious, and I have difficulties understanding how an aimbot could lead the target with the RL ?

  118. cook: FB said:

    “i am cheat man
    the final boss of mega man 9”

    LOL

  119. Shintaz: TEZC - MONSTERFRAGGEN said:

    MORE FRENCH
    AND RUSSIANS
    AND UKRANIANS
    AND ROMANIANS (i know what, that’s a country?!)

    NO UNITED KINDOMERS
    WE WIN THE ETF2L FAIRPLAY AWARD!!!!
    I will accept the prize of a free aimbot yey

  120. BloW: element // said:

    ABRA +1
    admins are MAD
    I aslo have all pov-demos from every offi of this season , a lot of demos from pcws , but they don’t need them , they ban me for one pcw against S7 ( winneh ) . GIVE ME THE STV DEMO OF THIS GAME , and i show it to every person on this forum . NO ANY AIMBOT THERE AT ALL

  121. Thanatos said:

    I remember the old TFC days where we used to have a thing called ETAC and they used to make small avis as proof…

    That would be cool even if it’s just a small footage from everyone who has been banned.

  122. Rojer_Ramjet said:

    How admins check if there are real cheaters ? With demos or anticheat softwares ??
    I ask that because I was suspected of cheat (in an other game) but actually i’ve never cheated, so it is sometimes hard to be sure that someone is cheating or not.

    By the way good job admins ;)

  123. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    stop using the :Z bird face, you’re a disgrace to my bird group

  124. tack: kp/ said:

    “I Play with all guys that are banned and believe me they dont use cheats…”

    I played against abra, it’s just a (very) good scout and that’s all.
    Lot of ppl are saying this is a cheater because he got brain and skills… or maybe they are jealous, like everybody.
    But i’m just thinking when someone rape winneh and his team he is just a cheater.

  125. Moha^ said:

    ETF2L FAIL !

    FYR Don’t use cheats !

  126. kaze: ? - sdx said:

    Lolololol.I’m totally shocked and I can bet mah balls that Hohenheim didn’t ever use a aimbot..

  127. Gideon said:

    New etf2l rule – “if u kil admin – u hax0r!”

  128. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    thanks for your opinion kaze, i appreciate someone who is teamless and registered on etf2l 1 hour ago backing up a player

  129. method said:

    i lolled tbh
    BloW +1
    winneh… : /

  130. AnAkIn said:

    It’s easy to say “he’s my friend and doesn’t cheat” when you got no clue about how a cheat work.

  131. cook: FB said:

    88.198.26.114:8767

    Join it for answers, be careful though, it has a lie detector installed!

  132. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    I think we really do need to start seeing evidence now. After what people have been saying I’m starting to think admins are basing these bans on playing vs the player, and because they expected a win vs a bad team, and one player suprised them and did extremely well, that they think he hacks and look into his case more (povs etc) and any sort of “dodgeyness” (that even a word?) out of proportion

  133. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    dunno if that makes sense. did when i wrote it

  134. kaze: ? - sdx said:

    I’ve been playing with hohenheim since he took up TF2 in the first place.I’m checking out ETF2L almost every day and when I saw the news section I’ve decided to make a reg,lol..

  135. Socrates said:

    You are safe, if you don’t kill any admins k?

  136. kaze: ? - sdx said:

    And I totally agree with numlocked,I need to see evidence to believe it..

  137. Basimodel said:

    Admins FAILED!

  138. Hohenheim: ? - [MC] said:

    I failed at that Socrates ): I’ve killed winneh ):

  139. cook: FB said:

    All admins have to agree on it before a ban is made, so unless every player in the admin team has a vendetta against those players, I doubt that’s the reason numlocked. :p

  140. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    gets blown out of proportion *

  141. Fodi said:

    Nighthawk, Fyr, Kondor, Hohenheim, Blow…?
    Just say we are april fools, coz I just cant believe that!

  142. I-I05t@ge said:

    After that new i can say only one – etf2l anti-cheat team consist of little inadequate children…

  143. K.O.$.T.: _teh said:

    FAIL. cant believe it

  144. fabetroma said:

    # AnAkIn: said:
    April 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    Iller, you don’t seem to know what cheats are capable of since you think that aimbot is not possible with soldier.

    Just awesome, keep going on making me laugh :) :)

    Proofs are not needed, look @ the last banned players, no proof but ban, it works like that :)

  145. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    No more Lie Detectors! :[ cook destroyed them all x_X’

    btw i cheated in GTA Vice City :(

  146. fdr: h. said:

    The Orange Box: 29.99€

    Decent PC: 400-500€

    Failing even at cheating: Priceless

  147. cook: FB said:

    Da, we overthrow admin team, make glorious government that make motherland proud

  148. A4S said:

    so stupid bans…
    tf2world.ru thread:
    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//tf2world.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D21172&hl=ru&langpair=en&tbb=1&ie=windows-1251

  149. futari: fail said:

    What a spamfest again :/
    N1 admin team, quite a list

  150. lork said:

    WINNEH AND JONNI paranoia ftw :|

    We want proofs

    kondor cheater? wtf? vicii?! omg sraam? Impossible (I play in the PC of sraam
    ;D)

    winneh stops crying, And I recommend to the whole world, STOP playing against winneh because he is a paranoiac

  151. cook: FB said:

    Google
    Error

    Перевод в направлении русский – русский не поддерживается.

    Пожалуйста, выберите один из вариантов:

    * Назад к Переводчику Google
    * Посмотреть оригинал страницы

    Nigga what?

  152. ChOun: iCon said:

    I think the community would be better able to judge these cheaters if they gave evidence in public, you can never really rely on 15 people. It is my view;)

  153. fabetroma said:

    @Winneh : Will we see the day that you turn your rage off?

  154. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    can anyone name a single respectable competitive gaming league that, when someone cheats, they instantly fire off proof? im asking this very sincerely and not trolling like i have been the rest of the thread, but i can’t think up a single one

  155. AnAkIn said:

    lork, you know that winneh and jonni are not the only etf2l admins? :/
    But I understand that you want to defend vicii since you’re in his team :P

  156. zLight: pA said:

    nice job etf2l

  157. Socrates said:

    cook l2stfu ;)

  158. lork said:

    I understand it anakin, but the persecutory obsession of this two is not normal

    “Does scout kill mas that I? is not possible, ban “

  159. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    “persecutory obsession”????

    im so sorry that the ANTI CHEAT ADMINS are focused on FINDING CHEATERS

  160. Masther: Actimel said:

    I think we really do need to start seeing evidence now. After what people have been saying I’m starting to think admins are basing these bans on playing vs the player, and because they expected a win vs a bad team, and one player suprised them and did extremely well, that they think he hacks and look into his case more (povs etc) and any sort of “dodgeyness” (that even a word?) out of proportion

    !st time I agree with numlocked – ppl were in good team and they think they will easily win with unknown team 6-0 – when they lose of crs they think some1 is using aimbot or wallhack

  161. gLongas said:

    Aye Doc u are cheater, why?. i don’t know but u are cheater. Winneh copyright 2009

  162. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    NUMLOCKED IS CHEATING!!!!!!!!

  163. cook: FB said:

    Once again, the conspiracy theory surfaces, ADMINS BAN BECAUSE THEY HATE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-no.

  164. AnAkIn said:

    Do you really think every single ETF2L admin played against your team?
    If any of the admin think that the player doesn’t cheat or isn’t sure, then it won’t get banned. Every admin has to agree.

  165. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    ah and i forgot: cook is also cheating !! i saw it on youtube a video he killed 3 dudes on the last point as medic! ban!

  166. Shintaz: TEZC - MONSTERFRAGGEN said:

    FUCK GUYS, DOESNT HACK U DICK HES REALLY REALLY GOOD EVEN THOUGH HE PULLS OFF UNBELIEVABLY DODGY SHIT IT’S JUST GOOD. WE WANT PROOF OF HACKING COS NO VIDS DINT HAPPEN M8

    see what i did

  167. gryzor said:

    Masther: That theory would work if it was just one or two people who decided who gets on this list.

  168. Mirelin: alus said:

    Skinnie is cheater tooo!!!!! He maked -5 :DD

  169. cook: FB said:

    I think we really need to start seeing proof now that it was my friend that got banned.

  170. J3 said:

    tomorrow Ill make a porno movie between me and fyrh xD watch closely
    (hope it will open the eyes of the tf2 scene to the lack of understanding our etf2l admins have)
    srs u guys make me laugh so hard…

    banning a guy I know personly for aimbotting rofl

    u guys just rick rolled urselfs ^^

  171. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    skinnie is often on lans :> just a tip!

  172. tack: kp/ said:

    “ppl were in good team and they think they will easily win with unknown team 6-0 – when they lose of crs they think some1 is using aimbot or wallhack”

    My previous team (exS) and me rape the 7 with Winneh in it so he was thinking something about us … and if you want i’ve the demo in this game

  173. baerbel: trick17 - trick17 said:

    http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/xxxramxxx/lolcat-monorail.jpg

  174. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    Never gonna give you up!

  175. method said:

    neva gonna let you down!

  176. cook: FB said:

    banning a guy I know personly for aimbotting rofl

    Fuck, irrefutable. He’s got you there admins.

  177. atreides said:

    stop this craptalk kids.

    1 year is too short.

  178. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    Maybe Winneh is Jesus ?! i mean he can watch you all the time ;)

  179. GrandMaster said:

    OMG!

  180. AnAkIn said:

    oh yea, right, he know him “personly”, so he can’t cheat!

  181. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/fuzzydice4570/jesus_is_watching_you.jpg

  182. bm.: said:

    gj admins.

  183. J3 said:

    yea anakin he can but he cant cheat when I am standing next to him can he? otherwise I think I would be smart enough to notice… O_O hello anakin wake uppp

  184. Mendietaaaa: TBNC said:

    Why so furius?

    1. General Rules

    1.1 If you kill an admin you’re a cheater

  185. AnAkIn said:

    J3, where is it written that he cheated when you were standing next to him?

  186. Gladia: DA! said:

    Then anakin, If an admin want to “save” his teamate he just has to say : “No, I don’t think he is cheating”. Then, some players could be protected, If the decision too ban a player is taken after that all the admins say : ” I think, He is cheating”.

  187. Awnz.: WSB? said:

    AnAkIn: said:

    April 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    It’s easy to say “he’s my friend and doesn’t cheat” when you got no clue about how a cheat work.

    You know what you’re talking about, don’t you?

  188. Krakyn: rEJ said:

    Can this thread break the 1000 post mark, the last big cheaters caught thread didn’t but it had less people to whine and the trolls are out early this time. Lets go for it people :D:D:o

    (also as he pointed out himself if there was anything personal to this fragga would have got banned an age ago due to him being less popular than a fart in a lift ;) )

  189. kaze: ? - sdx said:

    Lol,anakin,srsly dude,u’r starting to piss me off :@

  190. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    Winneh is watching you!

  191. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    there arent 20 illiterate french people with nothing to do to spam the thread
    this’ll never break 1000

  192. Stewie said:

    Masther, we played against s7… I guess that’s the reason hohen got banned, because he DOMINATED Winneh..

  193. J3 said:

    m8 r u joking or r u serious about that?
    ofc i wasnt standing next to him but I know his skill level enough and he has no reason to cheat so why would he? he is an awsome player end of story u guys just cant take it….
    etf2l not trustfull anymore rlly sorry to have to say that..

  194. AnAkIn said:

    Gladia, of course that if it’s a friend or a teammate of the admin, then this admin won’t be involved in the vote.

    If you remember “Moonroach” which was banned for aimbotting a few months ago, he was in the same team as DeNeusBeer (ETF2L admin).

  195. kaze: ? - sdx said:

    # Stewie: Fragmative said:

    April 11th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Masther, we played against s7… I guess that’s the reason hohen got banned, because he DOMINATED Winneh..

    True,true…

  196. kaidus: 7 - WiK? said:

    GJ admins, and PROPERLY ROFLS at a bunch of kids whining their friends freedom despite probably having never seen so much as 10 seconds of first person play from the individual.

    Also yeah, I think it may be worth considering punishing teams for housing cheaters. May be unfair that they don’t know, but it will just be all the more incentive to keep an eye on each other and make the admin’s jobs easier.

  197. Gladia: DA! said:

    Ok, but It’s difficult to say who is friend or not.

  198. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    yes it was the fact that winneh got dominated that made winneh make the unitarian decision to ban hohenheim right

    oh wait no he was suspicious, submitted it to every other admin, who all agreed on the ban as well
    WHOOPS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLlQpc8D2Kc

  199. babE: U/² said:

    epic… love drama<3

  200. victor.. said:

    haha

  201. J3 said:

    omagad we played so much against s7 now we’ll never be able to play again :(( cruel world

    anakin I always suported u m8 but i know better this stuff trust me I reported alot of cheaters in my gaming life i can tell when someone is cheating. ill make this clear for the community even if they dont unban him. i personally will discourage anyone to keep playing in here under this admins supervision..

  202. Advance: DF said:

    bad fuckin job, winneh you got something wrong. may be you got спермотоксикоз?

  203. Fluffy Meowington: TC.Potat said:

    I agree, teams benefit from cheating players so they should be punished as a team as well. :>

  204. Rcoket: cb. said:

    As i can see, Winneh is banning players from team, that won his team, so that team will drop, & his team will be best one :>

  205. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    i dont know what “спермотоксикоз” means but it has the word sperm in it and ewwww that’s icky!

  206. lork said:

    “As i can see, Winneh is banning players from team, that won his team, so that team will drop, & his team will be best one :>”

    This it is the idea :|

  207. Rcoket: cb. said:

    Dont play against Winneh, you will get banned :O

  208. olives: WUL said:

    Aye doc, Ur a legend!

    and Good Job Etf2l admins, played with 2 of the guys last night, the 1 whos not signed up on etf2l and duracell, didnt see it coming, but i guess u never know :)

  209. wooj: -HH- said:

    That wasn’t very fluffy of you fluffy :x

  210. Masther: Actimel said:

    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3715/lolhff.jpg

  211. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    “bad fuckin job, winneh you got something wrong. may be you got спермотоксикоз?”

    BAN!!!

  212. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    winneh is only banning people so that the pickup2 bot will have room for more players to get invited guys its okay

    [13:23] maybe Winneh is banning everyone so that theyll get banned from pickup2 and we can have more players in here :O
    [13:23] MAYBE IM NEXT?!?!
    [13:23] WINNEH SAY IT ISNT SO
    [13:23] nothing-hitting shit demo to almost decent lotsa-hitting scout ..
    [13:23] damn u ruined my masterplan

    see??

    fuck off demsii get out of my quote

  213. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    it didnt parse the names and now i look silly

    FVK

  214. kolox: obs. said:

    well played etf2l adminsss :D

    Also amusement time:
    [18:14] i don’t like cheats

  215. kolox: obs. said:

    It didnt parse the names and now I look silly

    FVK

    ([18:14] Fyr: i don’t like cheats

  216. cookye: (๑╹ω╹๑ ) said:

    who wudda thunk!

  217. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy4SiihbC4Q&feature=rec-rev-rn

  218. Extremer said:

    Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
    South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

    Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
    North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

    Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
    Brando, “The King and I”, and “The Catcher in the Rye”

    Eisenhower, vaccine, England’s got a new queen
    Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

    CHORUS
    We didn’t start the fire
    It was always burning
    Since the world’s been turning
    We didn’t start the fire
    No we didn’t light it
    But we tried to fight it

    Josef Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
    Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc

    Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, dacron
    Dien Bien Phu and “Rock Around the Clock”

    Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn’s got a winning team
    Davy Crockett, “Peter Pan”, Elvis Presley, Disneyland

    Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev
    Princess Grace, “Peyton Place”, trouble in the Suez

    CHORUS

    Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
    Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, “Bridge on the River Kwai”

    Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball
    Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide

    Buddy Holly, “Ben-Hur”, space monkey, Mafia
    hula hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no go

    U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
    Chubby Checker, “Psycho”, Belgians in the Congo

    CHORUS

    Hemingway, Eichmann, “Stranger in a Strange Land”
    Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs Invasion

    “Lawrence of Arabia”, British Beatlemania
    Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson

    Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British politician sex
    JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say

    CHORUS

    Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon, back again
    Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
    Begin, Reagan, Palestine, terror on the airline
    Ayatollolah’s in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan

    “Wheel of Fortune” , Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
    Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz
    Hypodermics on the shore, China’s under martial law
    Rock and Roller Cola Wars, I can’t take it anymore

    CHORUS

    We didn’t start the fire
    But when we are gone
    Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR-A4QFHZBA

  219. ulv: h. - Liero said:

    Disgusting comments for the most part.

  220. Extremer said:

    FREE WOW GOLD!!!!!

  221. Extremer said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVcG8bJBkKk

    In my honest opinion, this song is very relevant to our dramatic situation.

  222. deny said:

    if its true…

    gj admins!

  223. Flo: ColorZ said:

    im happy other innocent player banned from this fake league

  224. lovEEE: boliyduo - boys said:

    Mr. Admin u got FAILed/

  225. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    fake league GRR
    THIS LEAGUE IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO MY REALITY

  226. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    in my reality nobody gets banned but there are lots of tiny chihuahuas with waggy tails

  227. tack: kp/ said:

    Just a little story with Winneh and his team in it.

    In this week (Monday) my previous team (exS) and me rape Winneh and his team. I had to go so i left the game when i make the fifth back cap and one on my mate substitute me. In this game i play like a god (if you want i’ve the demo in eyes of this match).

    After this, yersteday i played a pick up as soldier. At the end of the pick up i had 30 frags and 2 death and i see winneh in the spectator.
    Finally yersteday night i play against a mix, and i rape the two scout (caliban and sQveh?) on badlands i DOMINATED the two but on granary i just DOMINATED caliban.

    And today when Jonni tell me i was cheating with a Aimbot i saw Winneh with this two guys in this friend list.
    Just a story of my fucking unlucky life

  228. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    I just sang that whole song, thanks extremer!

  229. The Postman said:

    Old Godzilla was hopping around
    Tokyo City like a big playground
    When suddenly Batman burst from the shade
    and hit Godzilla with a Batgrenade
    Godzilla got pissed and began to attack
    but didn’t expect to be blocked by Shaq
    who proceeded to open up a can of Shaq Fu
    When Aaron Carter came out of the blue

    And he started beating up Shaquille O’Neal
    Then they both got flattened by the Batmobile
    but before it could make it back to the Batcave
    Abraham Lincoln popped out of his grave
    and took an AK-47 out from under his hat
    and blew Batman away with a rat-a-tat-tat
    but he ran out of bullets and he ran away
    because Optimus Prime came to save the day

    this is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
    good guys, bad guys, and explosions as far as the eye can see
    and only one will survive, I wonder who it will be
    this is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny

    Godzilla took a bite out of Optimus Prime
    like Scruff McGruff took a bite out of crime
    and then Shaq came back covered in a tire track
    but Jackie Chan jumped out and landed on his back
    and Batman was injured, and trying to get steady
    when Abraham Lincoln came back with a machete
    but suddenly something caught his leg and he tripped
    Indiana Jones took him out with his whip

    then he saw Godzilla sneaking up from behind
    and he reached for his gun which he just couldn’t find
    ’cause Batman stole it and he shot and he missed
    and Jackie Chan deflected it with his fist
    then he jumped in the air and did a somersault
    while Abraham Lincoln tried to pole vault
    onto Optimus Prime, but they collided in the air
    then they both got hit by a Care Bear Stare

    this is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
    good guys, bad guys, and explosions as far as the eye can see
    and only one will survive, I wonder who it will be
    this is the Ultimate Showdown…

    angels sang out an immaculate chorus
    down from the heavens descended Chuck Norris
    who delivered a kick which could shatter bones
    into the crotch of Indiana Jones
    who fell over on the ground, writhing in pain
    as Batman changed back into Bruce Wayne
    but Chuck saw through his clever disguise
    and he crushed Batman’s head inbetween his thighs

    then Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and
    “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”‘s Black Knight and
    Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie and
    Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
    Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
    Lo Pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger
    Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan,
    Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan
    all came out of nowhere lightning fast
    and they kicked Chuck Norris in his cowboy ass
    it was the bloodiest battle the world ever saw
    with civilians looking on in total awe

    and the battle raged on for a century
    many lives were claimed, but eventually
    the champion stood, the rest saw their better:
    Mr. Rogers in a bloodstained sweater

    this is the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
    good guys, bad guys, and explosions as far as the eye can see
    and only one will survive, I wonder who it will be
    this is the Ultimate Showdown…
    this is the Ultimate Showdown…
    this is the Ultimate Showdown…
    of Ultimate Destiny

  230. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    lool aye

  231. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    the story of your fucking unlucky life involves you cheating in a match with winneh and then him monitoring your activities thereafter and speaking to the rest of the etf2l admins about you cheating and you getting banned?

    damn. and i thought that dude who lost his balls to a thresher was unlucky.

  232. Extremer said:

    THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN
    OF ULTIMATE DESTINY WOOO

  233. nej: AM said:

    It’s look shit, with out proofs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where is the proofs ?!

  234. method said:

    tack : conclusion : winneh is a ****?

  235. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    the proofs is with the love

  236. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    that’s what the black eyed peas told me, anyway

  237. CrossNoFair said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Nqguav6nE&feature=PlayList&p=32F898236E883A51&index=0&playnext=1

  238. The Postman said:

    How many of the 130 odd posts are yours Aye Doc? :P

  239. The Postman said:

    oh noes theres moar. i look stupid now :*(

  240. Mirelin: alus said:

    Winneh is watching you!

    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/700/02e9f0409762.jpg

  241. FlogstaHP said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyr5TXqe8Y

  242. pischto: MTF! - MTF said:

    .. I was right.. this game is going down.

    cu fu

    cl_bock @ tf2 = 0

  243. XenDeviL: xen said:

    epic.

  244. Socrates said:

    Get outta there it’s gonna blow!

  245. Nymthae: -9w- - -9m- said:

    Seeing as Special7 are still trialling scouts, it’s hardly going to be rare for Winneh to have a lot of them on his list is it?

  246. LukeStarkiller said:

    Scene needs serious proofs for those bans. This situation is getting retarded.

  247. AC.Archangel: amg said:

    Stupid admins

  248. Fluffy Meowington: TC.Potat said:

    It’s all just façade wooj, all façade.

  249. AC.Archangel: amg said:

    You can shut up

  250. Milfeulle: MTF! - MTF said:

    The best thing about this thread is that 95% of the replies are from unrelated parties and most of those contain flames and childish stuff. This shitstorm (especially coming from clanmates, sorry for that) is pretty much disappointing, and once again a bleak reflection of what this community has become.

    For my part, I stick to the universal rule that any bans may happen at the admins’ discretion, even if their doubts and actions may or may not be founded. And while it might seem unfair to the dozen of erudite, outspoken players here, the rest of the community will definitely be thankful for that.

  251. J3 said:

    @ luke

    +1 +every1 agrees

  252. deny said:

    @ AC.Archangel: Xen2

    ye, more of this plz…(ironic!)

    what is your problem?

  253. Zappah: nou said:

    h4x0rz

  254. r3sp said:

    game without cheats

  255. REDEMPTOR: DAKKA said:

    As I have see for my teammate flo, I don’t believe ETF2L for this list too..

    This league is now a real joke.

    http://www.clanbase.ggl.com, clan should go on :)

  256. caliban: fail said:

    “And today when Jonni tell me i was cheating with a Aimbot i saw Winneh with this two guys in this friend list.
    Just a story of my fucking unlucky life”

    LOL @ tack <3 bb haxx0r :(

  257. w1ng said:

    Winneh, brain off :))))

  258. kurk: cQr - cQr-HL said:

    sai frito pa mesa 4

  259. Winneh: [s7] said:

    ppl should know that faking admins and insulting other players will be punished with a ban.

  260. acdervis said:

    Me wantz proofz.

  261. Swifty: ξ(゜ヮ゜)ξ said:

    Woo moar bans! :D

  262. Typh0n: AUTOBOTS said:

    Well Winneh i think you should ban every people who insulted you on threads but it reprensents at least 1/3 of the ETF2L community:(

  263. kolox: obs. said:

    omg r3sp, dont start that shit here it is was bad enough on gotfrag.

    mybrute posts should be punishable by 1yr bans, DO IT ADMINS!

  264. psunfragga: cc// said:

    Wow so many players :/

    I’m sure there is a fair way admins deal with it in that theres multiple people who view a demo, but any clip can be seen as ‘aimbot’ etc if you look at it hard and long enough through a lot of clips. Witch hunting is not cool. I’m sure there are some that deserved the ban, but others… really? Backlash begins to question the process. Gl with it admins.

  265. n0va: T2P said:

    tbh i think the admins have done a good job :D

  266. LooNiiGooN: HordeofGoats said:

    f****** shame….

  267. Fodi said:

    Hell yeah GJ! Im afraid of playing against S7 coz next time I do a killing spree I probably got banned by hacking without any proof. :x

  268. perry: [MIPC] said:

    You had some nice shots in that game we played against you abra m8!

    Keep rooting out those dirty cheaters! gj!

  269. green. said:

    lol. epiclol.

  270. bon: boliyduo - V.A.C. said:

    Again, winneh Epic fail.

  271. op said:

    ban meh

  272. Haunter said:

    I think etf2l is doing a good job with the cheaters, but imo your credibility will decrease alot, as long as u dont release the proof’s

  273. iQue: keso said:

    Hoooly crap this was a lot of replies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dvSlvZLG8 is relevant

  274. .: cc// said:

    I hope all cheaters burn in hell >.<

  275. AC.Archangel: amg said:

    ETF2L going in crap with people like winneh

  276. d0llar said:

    who didn’t suspect kondor? what are you blind?

  277. green. said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91oYiKas628&feature=related
    winneh, owned all cheater’s!11elevenoneone11

  278. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    SWAFFEL SWAFFEL SWAFFEL @ cheaters

  279. LukeStarkiller said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGdY5-x_xhc

    This is all proof they have i think =)

  280. Chopin said:

    PM me for good cheats!

  281. Macisum: YOYO\' - syster said:

    Howcome do we never see your proof?

  282. Exact said:

    i saw KondoR @ lan in moscow.. hes not a cheater!!! ffs!

  283. Moha^ said:

    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993799964

    +1 for the admins :x

    Nighthawk steam banned :x

  284. EnfantTerriblee said:

    2 players banned are mates, and i think we need see proof’s ….

  285. Anathema said:

    Ah good fun these comments were, would read again.
    GJ admins :)

  286. I am a therapeutic fungus! said:

    ETF2L ANTI-CHEAT TEAM REALLY FAIL!
    There will be another LAN here, in Moscow, at 10 of May, and Kondor, Duracell and Blow will take part in it. Explay me, admins, how can they cheating at LAN?! And the level of this players are the same on LAN and online tournaments.

  287. Gaarulf: UP| said:

    I absolutely love that you catch cheaters!

    But honeslty, PM the banned people, let them rage you in your face, make then understand what they have done, show them proof and get them to calm down before you release the news. If not, we have to get through 300 replies of butthurt cheaters / accused cheaters /friend of mom of uncle who know a guys that might have thought about the cheaters sister once or people linking lyrics and youtube songs.

  288. AnAkIn said:

    What’s the point of showing proof to cheaters? They know that they cheated.

  289. Team Fortress 2 » Arkiv » ETF2L bannar en hög med cheaters said:

    […] på att läsa listan på “bannade cheaters” föreslår jag att du hastar iväg till ETF2l för den kompletta […]

  290. Fodi said:

    http://www.cadred.org/Images/Gallery/Originals/3489_fail-owned-hostage-fail.jpg

  291. Haunter said:

    @anakin
    the point is giving some credibility to etf2l?

    its basicly your word against theirs, in the beggining u have the fact of beeing an important league in your side, but soon, if u keep this ammount of bans u might be having some issues with teams

    i dont understand why u dont give them proof’s, and dont come with that “they might avoid our methods speech”, if someone cheats he has to be banned from every league, u should share it with the players accused, and other competitions

  292. rge said:

    http://www.imgbox.de/?img=c45639f25.jpg

  293. Rcoket: cb. said:

    They dont give proofs, because they dont have them.

  294. Rcoket: cb. said:

    They just randomly ban those wich they dont like. BANHAMMER PAWNAGE!!!1111ONEONE

  295. Madness. said:

    well played admins.

  296. Adiemus: said:

    Is it that easy to accuse people? Any proof?

    Sad to see such a big organisation is being administrated like that.

  297. Woody said:

    Fyr isn’t a cheater.

  298. caliban: fail said:

    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993799964 says it all

    as innocent as all the others

  299. caliban: fail said:

    “i saw KondoR @ lan in moscow.. hes not a cheater!!! ffs!”

    how stupid ppl can be
    lol ya like he would hack on lan :D

    repeating myself, but same like this famous q3 player sombra…he played q3 for live and ya he cheated ,so???and he played at big big events..nobody could ever imagine he is haxx00ring but he did

    etfl>cheaters

  300. Bjuo said:

    i hope you guys are getting paid

  301. Wlv: RaWr :: said:

    I’m not an admin any more but some of the comments are great! Winneh is _not_ stupid and dedicated so much time to the league. Deek your comments are moronic, I expected you to be a reasonable person!

  302. numlocked: (king of all rollouts) - Epsilon said:

    deek isn’t reasonable :D

  303. op said:

    Why mate? When my mates have been made a fool out of! Its out of order, etf2l has ruined them. Fuck em

  304. m1neraL: [kpwr] said:

    GJ admins, lol at comments about boycotting the league ^^
    Keep up the good work admins!

  305. caliban: fail said:

    haha http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993799964 he never cheated!!!!

    etf2l lies!!!! he never could cheat xD xD hahaha great

  306. Extremer said:

    ^ It’s a HL1 ban, he’s not banned on Source games..

  307. AnAkIn said:

    YE CALIBAN HE NEVER CHEATED ITS A CONSPIRACY!!1!!1!!1!1!1!!!111!

  308. caliban: fail said:

    so u are so sure he never would use cheats.(in source games-lol)..i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D

    anyway sweeep away those cheater..hm i can smell the fresh air already

  309. daf: yoyotech - Hey dats! said:

    I dont see the harm in releasing a short AVI with wireframe on if it is a wallhack or showing some obv aimbot shots, just to shut these morons up. Not like that will give away your secret methods of catching cheaters

  310. Wlv: RaWr :: said:

    Talking about aids etc is pathetic deek and you know it. If winneh etc weren’t here there would be no league. Grow up.

  311. Socrates said:

    deeK, just calm down m8 ;)

  312. tramsig: -><- said:

    How in hell can you complain about your “friends” getting banned? You cant possible be sure they havent cheated once? The only one that you can be sure that never have cheated is yourself, so the only ones complaining in this thread should be the banned, but they almost doesnt say anything, why? If any of my “friends” would get caught I would take the admins word for it(if it wasnt myself).

    So stfu and let the accused speak.

    GJ admins.

  313. nightmare: L00 said:

    I agree with daf.Just post proof so there will be no more complaining and raging :)

  314. apathy: LFT said:

    ПАТАМУШТА ДАЛБАЕБЫ

  315. berserking god: broder - PRO said:

    Anyone’s flawed, even admins. That’s why I think sharing the “evidence” would be good. Like daf said earlier in pickup2, if an admin came to him suddenly and said “oh, you’ve been banned for cheating, dude” and he wasn’t cheating (as if), then obviously he’d say “show me the proof” and would like to see it.

    It being released to everyone means if it’s indisputable evidence, no one will have a problem with it, and there won’t be an argument. I think the etf2l admins are concerned in cases where it’s far more subtle and less discernable that a person cheats, because more people might question the admins’ decision especially since they know just how vague the proof is, and therefore it’s better to have a covert method of labelling cheaters.

    That’s why this method shouldn’t be used in the first place, because people will question the credibility, and I implore the etf2l admins to have, as daf said, one admin with cheats or wireframe or whatnot to record a short 1-2 min avi showing suspicious behavior of a suspected wallhack-user, maybe with a short comment. Or show short clips of obvious aimbot usage. I’ve been told that’s what it was like in tfc, so I don’t see *why* a league wouldn’t be able to do that now. Even if they don’t want to, they really should to retain their credibility.

    Don’t get me wrong, I applaud catching cheaters, but I don’t know myself if these people are cheaters or not. Some have been sketchy, but some I didn’t suspect at all, and that’s why I’d like to see exactly what the admins base their decision upon, so I can decide for myself. I know if I was wrongfully banned I’d want the admins to show me why and I’d be quite aggravated myself.

  316. op said:

    Ok yeah what i said about aids etc is bs, im sorry to those offended. I just feel pissed of so much for KondoR that i know didnt cheat but hey the admins know better. Also gj to work on this so much. Peace

  317. Black-Dawn: Fatal. said:

    What is the world coming to? I actually agree with berserker for once.

  318. kuzmichspb said:

    Where is the evidence?
    Show killings?
    For ETF2L this is very bad.
    (

  319. fakenick o_O: Kot=Brot said:

    ban the noobs! and delete their teams from league ranking. lol @ blow + duracell

  320. kuzmichspb said:

    If the administrators have a conscience let them show the evidence.

    used http://translate.google.ru

  321. J3 said:

    deek I already said too that I have full confidence in fyrh that I know and I play everyday side by side, I feel offended that my friend was called cheater. I understand u but still try to stay cool, certain ppl don’t deserve the wast of time.

  322. Iller: tGa said:

    I completely agree with Tramsig here.
    If anyone of my teammates was banned here I would not start to defend him and say “I know he is innocent”, since I have no way of knowing that.

  323. Orb: is Addicted said:

    +1 berserking god words, totally agree.

    Etf2l admins, learn some about this page:
    http://game-violations.ggl.com/

    gl and stop this fucking circus, banning without evidences

  324. Elur said:

    GJ admins :|
    долбаные руссофобы…

  325. SuperFly-: DANMARK said:

    GJ as always i hope.

    Bit conserned that so many out of the players participating in ETF2L actually is hacking? Would like the admins to write a post and explain what they look for, and what facts they use to ban a player from the tournament for one year. If it is indeed wrong it would be absolutely horrible for the players involved.

  326. gryzor said:

    berserking god: you write quite the long post and make some good points. I also answered daf in pickup2 and he seem happy with the answer.

    What exactly do you want more?

  327. Defur said:

    ITS SATURDAY ITS SATURDAY

  328. bunfi said:

    GJ. do more bans, the other leagues like ESL, UKeSA, CB and ED very happy about that.
    I make a petition: DENEUSBEER COME BACK. THE NEW ADMINS RUINS THE LEAGUE WHAT YOU BUILD.

  329. TroubleGirl said:

    +1

  330. TroubleGirl said:

    Gaarulf: “I absolutely love that you catch cheaters!

    But honeslty, PM the banned people, let them rage you in your face, make then understand what they have done, show them proof and get them to calm down before you release the news. If not, we have to get through 300 replies of butthurt cheaters / accused cheaters /friend of mom of uncle who know a guys that might have thought about the cheaters sister once or people linking lyrics and youtube songs.”

    +1

    P.S.
    Quotation didn’t work :s

  331. nophin: :id: said:

    its just so sad..

  332. caliban: fail said:

    ya sad
    cheaters :/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1KzR_ABsDM

  333. Dave: Mafia - wMiC? said:

    Will all the stupid motherfucking cunts who keep saying “omg i no ths prsn in rl… they never cheat” shut the hell up?

    It’s plain and simple – people who you think you know to be fair players can turn out to be cheaters. For a small minority, winning and getting recognition as a good player is more important than playing fairly, and whilst for most people the fun that comes with being recognised would be tainted by the knowledge that you cheat, for a small minority it’s worth it, just so they feel like an e-star.

    Some people also like running the risk. It’s an added challenge to playing competitively, breaking the rules, seeing how far you can get without being caught. Just because you think you know a person doesn’t mean you REALLY know what goes on in the privacy of their own home, infront of a computer. It’s pretty easy to download cheats, and it can go undetected for a while. Do some of you people seriously expect that your teammate will say one day over Mumble:

    “Hey guys, I’m trying out a new cheat today, but don’t tell anyone!”

    Ofcourse not – everyone knows that cheating is wrong, so why do loads of you expect you’ll know if a teammate is doing it? All these people who hack know it’s wrong, and that’s why so few of them have replied to this.

    Just stop all this fucking crying.

  334. bunfi said:

    Dave: give me evidences: screenshots, demos, videos anything wherewith I’am able to resolve this guy is cheating or not. Not just release name and like arabia the n00bs and other irrelevant persons cast the stone them. Its such simple. -.-“

  335. Dr.LeoN said:

    I like turtles

  336. jonni the juicy jew: [FB] said:

    I like bunny’s in cowboy boots

  337. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    I like LeoN

  338. Dr.LeoN said:

    This is a awkward FF63. Cuz i really like you to amongst my turtles, maybe we should hook up and exchange “experience”

  339. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    I need a mana break first

  340. Dr.LeoN said:

    Dont fill up on bread, im gonna pump you full of it.

  341. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    I’m looking forward to that

  342. Dr.LeoN said:

    Hey FF63, did you see the news a few months ago? They’re allowing gay marriage in norway, you can finally marry your goat. Can i be your best man? :D

  343. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    I’m not marrying my goat anymore. I have a big and strong polarbear whom i’m going to marry.
    (Yes, you can be my best man)

  344. Dr.LeoN said:

    I like having sex with gay turtles on the beach

  345. FF63: YOYO\' said:

    You had sex with me on the beach. Are you telling me you also had sex with your turtles there? :(

  346. Dr.LeoN said:

    yes

    J’adore les tortues

  347. kEvNx: .#mtf said:

    (:

  348. Rez: BEC - B-pin said:

    Typhon : the posts insulting the admins might represent 1/3 of the community’s, but they’re the fact of a little bunch of spamming kiddies.

    Admins : ban every prick who couldn’t behave properly here. Show no mercy.

  349. cook: FB said:

    Holy shit Rez. ++ Respect for France.

  350. Crink: -9w- said:

    nice to have dedicated admins, keep up the good work

  351. Arie: (serveme.tf) - FB - [FB] said:

    I like turtles, Leon and Cook.

    I don’t like .exe players and their flaming friends that make this game look a bit more like Counter-Strike every week.

  352. waebi: ‹Con› said:

    .exe players being haxx0rs with .exe files?

  353. GeaR: Epsilon said:

    “stop this craptalk kids.

    1 year is too short.”

    True.

  354. Jh: Hey dats! said:

    graped kondor

  355. nifty!: -HH²- - Gm| said:

    ….good job again,admins!
    All that lil babys that say: gimme a proof…stfu!I think admins never Ban someone without a reason and without a proof…so dont spam your stupid blabla here!
    Anyway,they are more cheaters out there….get them all! :) gj ..Keep at it!

  356. berserking god: broder - PRO said:

    gryzor:

    Sorry, I didn’t see the response to daf in pickup2 – There was like 1 new 10-word sentence a second, so I couldn’t be bothered following everything. If you could re-post it or just give a short summary here for your reasoning I’d be more than pleased.

    And regarding this whole thing, it is the admins’ choice whether or not to release the material they base their decision upon, but I just know that if I was wrongly banned, I’d be very displeased with the whole situation and would like to know, and then maybe defend myself.

  357. Orbbaz said:

    I dont know another players from banlist, but I can guarantee for Hohenheim, he is not cheater! He has awesome aim and if someone doubt…lets try. I like etf2l and I appreciate admins work, but I cant accept this ban of Hohenheim without a proof.We(fragmative) had played vs s7 few days ago pcw and I got stv demos ->link : http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/6258885/file.html http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/33349665/file.html
    I appeal to unban Hohenheim!

    Peace!

  358. Rcoket: cb. said:

    Only bad thing here is that admins dont think that they can be wrong.

  359. caliban: fail said:

    “but I can guarantee for Hohenheim, he is not cheater!”

    TBH nobody can “guarantee”

    i think discusion is over
    have a nice day

  360. Winneh: [s7] said:

    Orbbaz: Fragmative

    Hohen did not get banned from a demo playing s7.

  361. fabetroma said:

    # Rez: BEC said:
    April 12th, 2009 at 2:27 am
    Typhon : the posts insulting the admins might represent 1/3 of the community’s, but they’re the fact of a little bunch of spamming kiddies.
    Admins : ban every prick who couldn’t behave properly here. Show no mercy.

    good idea. keep the good ones coming

  362. MuDiX said:

    Hohen did not get banned from a demo playing s7.
    then show us the STV demo for what he got banned…

  363. fakenick o_O: Kot=Brot said:

    cheater helping cheater lool. for example: me and my banned friend didnt cheat.
    lolololol KICK OUT this shitheads!

  364. caliban: fail said:

    “Hohen did not get banned from a demo playing s7.
    then show us the STV demo for what he got banned…”

    are u stupid?

  365. fakenick o_O: Kot=Brot said:

    lol calibob. hohenheim always used an aimbot, i know that, too. can you please stop complaining about? or you want a ban too?

  366. Agron: Relic said:

    Hai guises,

    I have problem help me pls wit it? Lately been dying lot in battles. Also missing many time my flick heals. Need something to stop miss flick healing. Recomend a flick heal bot? Are there thing like flick heal bot?

    Thanks you,

    Cheers Agwon

  367. Albolynx said:

    If you got evidence you wouldn’t even know what to do with it. Tell me honestly, would you just look it through fast and tell that the person didn’t cheat or carefully look it trough, nit-picking every smallest thing like it should be done?

  368. tapley: TEZC - TEZC said:

    Have you heard?
    Byte Cheats @ i36!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184

  369. Mike: SF said:

    “Hohen did not get banned from a demo playing s7.
    then show us the STV demo for what he got banned…

    are u stupid?”

    Let’s make a list of all the respectable leagues that release evidence of cheaters.

    Cool. Shut up.

  370. caliban: fail said:

    “lol calibob. hohenheim always used an aimbot, i know that, too. can you please stop complaining about? or you want a ban too?”

    ehm robben?? better read my post again i was quoting and i am not complaining about any bans Oo

    im just fine with the descisions

  371. Mike: SF said:

    Whoops quoted the wrong person, sorry :D

  372. robben: Kot=Brot said:

    yeah cali just recognized that too late. im sorry :P

  373. caliban: fail said:

    cool,peace :>

    ya mabe someone should jsut close it..i mean it’s all said and done so

    hey let’s enjoy the weather :>
    and ppl who just dont want to understand that u cant give out the proofs and stuff …ye it’s hopeless

  374. bunfi said:

    oh a div3 dropped clan with skilled scout… what a shame

  375. angra: [j]\\\' - [j]' said:

    Nice work admins!

    shame on you cheaters!

  376. Stewie said:

    I want to tell you my opinion.. We played for first year in etf2l and we won in our division. Suspicious (huh, admins ?). A few days ago we played a matches against SpA and s7… We won against SpA and made a draw against s7.. Who the fuck are we to beat div3 skilled teams… If we play for 1st time here and we win against div3 teams, then we are cheaters… All of this shit is going on because some peoples can’t take a loss. There are some shitheads who are used to win always and when they lose, they think that the other team, who is not at their skill level is cheating.. Shame on you. This is a game – you win, you lose.. You cant always win, and when you lose you can’t accept it…

  377. Winneh: [s7] said:

    Would you please scroll up ?
    Hohen did not get banned from a demo playing s7.

  378. caliban: fail said:

    ya ppl just need to read and turn on your brains….isn’t to hard..all u need is brain..tadadada…all u need is brain…brain is all u need

  379. Crunchy said:

    this is a joke, if your not happy with an admins decision say so but be nice about it, the more you say OMG NOOB ADMIN YOU SUX the more your gonna get flamed and look like an idiot, grow up and talk properly and maybe, just maybe one day the admins will actually trust the community enough to show us some of the proof

    i agree in some cases proof needs to be given but at the end of the day its the admins decision

  380. Stewie said:

    Winneh, did you saw that i was talking also for SpA ?

  381. Anathema said:

    To be honest a 1 year ban is odd to me.
    I don’t see the point in ever unbanning cheaters. If they do come back they’re highly likely to just use some sort of hack again. Also it would scare more people away “to try some hack out just once” if they knew the punishment for it would be permanent.

  382. caliban: fail said:

    FFS JUST GET IT!!!!! EVEN the esl,the biggest european esports league doesnt give u proof,they have a anti cheat team who look at stuff,demos etc and then they decide

    !!!! holy SHIT !!!!

    even your best friends can cheat so.dont whine….i know it’s a cruel world

    stay clean
    bb

  383. eoN^ said:

    Some people are rather dense, either that or they make themselves out to be…

    I personally think everyone is so rude because of the decision made with the Sandman and the fact that the ETF2L admins, in the end, lost the argument and gave in… Personally i think it was a bad decision in the first place (to allow sandman at all) but I think due to the admins giving in to the majority of the community lots of people believe this league is public property and that all our opinions HAVE to come true… The answer is no this is a privately run league by the league admins…

    What gives us the right to demand anything off of them?

    I dont care if you play in the league or not demanding evidence off them when they have given good reasons why it should not be released is just stupidity…

    If you want an input that HAS to be listened to then become and admin otherwise boycott the league or something, go on internet strike i don’t know but for the love of god stop whining like little bitches and accept it or do something…

  384. fabetroma said:

    “ya ppl just need to read and turn on your brains….isn’t to hard..all u need is brain..tadadada…all u need is brain…brain is all u need”

    It’s hard to do after this fucking great night :)

  385. caliban: fail said:

    tell me more ^^

  386. bunfi said:

    winneh: oh yes ^^ of course. should i rase my right arm?

  387. caliban: fail said:

    u are sooo stupid, u know that is not the descioson of ONE GUY!?!?!?!and you there is not just ONE ADMINS?!?!!

    Oh PLS God blees the children

  388. bunfi said:

    s7 for president

  389. caliban: fail said:

    oh poor bunfi…pls god help him :(

  390. bunfi said:

    I’m atheist… ^^

  391. caliban: fail said:

    and stupid

    amen

  392. Agron: Relic said:

    One night…in Bangkok…AND THE WORLD’S YOUR OYSTER

    oh I wish i could rewind time so my 1st post could be:

    “Oh my god It’s Abra, who got banned for cheating”.

    That would’ve been funny imo…I’m hungry btw. Should I eat pizza or make proper food? I wish I had a magic 8-ball. Life would be so much easier.

  393. Dr.LeoN said:

    We’re no strangers to love, You know the rules. (keep it coming)

  394. bunfi said:

    If you say so caliban…

  395. caliban: fail said:

    just read your posts

  396. FarcrY: popkõrns said:

    we all <3 Hohen!!! unban him NAO!

  397. waebi: ‹Con› said:

    the fuck.

  398. dead_guard said:

    I know, I know, admins want to ban everybody in tf2 community and win Steelseries prizes

  399. TucE: tR67 - KUKKO! said:

    I played pcw against Kondor at this week and im 99% sure that he has something special progremmes in same time.

  400. Admirable: (Toucan Ambassador) said:

    Scandal!
    Thanks for your diligence Winneh and all admins :)

  401. ExE: -[S2L] said:

    “OMFG!!!! cant believe it”

    OMFG!!!! I CAN BELIEVE IT!

  402. Shintaz: TEZC - MONSTERFRAGGEN said:

    COOK FROM [FB] HACKS GUYS
    WATCH OUT
    FUCK
    OH NO
    WE’RE ALL GONNA OHMY WHY DID ADMINS BAN THAT GUY THAT WAS MY FRIEND BECAUSE HE’S MY FRIEND AND HE DOESNT HACK BECAUSE HE’S MY FRIEND LOLS?

  403. Gniedler: T4F - FuDoo :> said:

    “Oh my god It’s Abra, who got banned for cheating”. lol

  404. CommanderX: (ETF2L Donator) - TEZC said:

    Vote for pizza

  405. Orbbaz said:

    nice job admins…nice job:) clap-clap
    Fragmative lost their points from season 4 and their upper division place……now i get the point of those bans:)
    The only thing you have made is to upset Hohenheim. You could’ve just said that you want this place for other. We were going to give you with you humiliating our player. I dont think we belong to this false “league” anymore!

    Peace and…gl….

  406. miikka: [MIPC] - [MIPC] said:

    I wonder where Kondor was caught cheating? Does it seem like he’s been cheating from the beginning? I mean he’s been a top scout since the early days and actually made the first decent scout frag movie…

  407. Crunchy said:

    “dont think we belong to this false “league” anymore!”

    lol fair enough :P but tbh theres not really many other leagues out there that has a big community like this,

    theres wireplay, not too bad still growing, but for most people its just turn up and play
    thesgl, can really say much about it, my clans signed up and first 2 games are defaults :S

    tbh etf2l is the biggest tf2 tournament and it’ll stay that way for quite a while

  408. MuDiX said:

    cmon super admins place STV for every player who cheats

  409. Shintaz: TEZC - MONSTERFRAGGEN said:

    If you ask the admins for evidence it means you do not trust them.
    If you don’t trust the admins, it’s almost an insult as they are in charge of a specific aspect of ETF2L.
    If you insult the admins, it is a bannable offense.

    THEREFORE BAN EVERYONE ASKING FOR EVIDENCE! YES GO SHINTAZ

  410. relic said:

    banhammer? that was failhammer

  411. bunfi said:

    BAN without any explanation… what will spring from these events?

  412. tack: kp/ said:

    I make my apologises, i’ve said that winneh was persecute me, it was wrong, he was just try to do his job.
    But, after seeing what he have to say, and why they think i’m aimbotting, i’m still convinced that they’re charge me, and probably some other guys, with dubious procedures. Therefore, i reject they’re accusations, and i still claiming that i’m not cheating.

  413. bunfi said:

    Look around, who cares? admins, agressors, wiseguys? no. some idiots (like me), who prize liberty and thruth more then their life.

  414. perry: [MIPC] said:

    keep it coming guys, i like reading all these posts made by people with no clue whatsoevah!

    Cu next sunday :D

  415. skoom: Kot=Brot - FuDoo :> said:

    Presented to you: bErg natural aim!

    http://www.wegame.com/watch/bErg_natural_aim

  416. MuDiX said:

    one down others?

  417. Rcoket: cb. said:

    skoom, where there is AIM? lol

  418. berg said:

    i was expecting this video

  419. Crunchy said:

    odd part where your wobbling alot, when the scout jumps through the window

  420. Rcoket: cb. said:

    2Crunchy: did he hit him? nopz.

  421. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    “some idiots (like me), who prize liberty and thruth more then their life.”

    seriously???

    this is a fucking league about a dumb video game

    WHERE IS THE LIBERTY AND TRUTH
    WHERE CAN I FIND FREEDOM
    WHY IS IT NOT IN THIS LEAGUE DEVOTED TO A VIDEO GAME WHERE A BIG FAT GUY EATS A SANDWICH?!?!

    ARRTGHHHHGFGHG

  422. berg said:

    oh yes its very strange, there is no way to do like that without aimbot :(

  423. zyronic: HD said:

    huj

  424. SuperFly-: DANMARK said:

    I only got one question for the admins……

    Does Sasquach exist?

  425. Abra said:

    TucE: BFT said:

    April 12th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I played pcw against Kondor at this week and im 99% sure that he has something special progremmes in same time.

    Thats what i am talking about..Some one just cant even imagine that some one can shoot so good without cheats…

  426. J3 said:

    @berg vid so far that could be my lachesis mouse giving me one of those headaches didnt saw anything about it. unless ofc on the part that he shoots the wall there is someone on that spot right behind it(that way would be obvious) it didnt happen lol

  427. berg said:

    this video is made after this “cheater” list was already known, u can see in chat “cya berg”, and some members of opposite team went spect (like 3 of them?) so i decided to make fun of it and I made some silly stuff to pretend im using cheats and they are out of control . So as u can see they really made this video, just like i wanted *laugh*

    well anyway im kinda shocked that admin (AnAkIn) is taking this video so seriously

  428. Falko: it's a farm said:

    only the etf2l is responsible for this:
    http://www.fingersports.de/etf2l.org

    hahaha

  429. Falko: it's a farm said:

    only the etf2l is responsible for this:
    http://www.fingersports.de/etf2l.jpg

    sry for double post :)

  430. Hansa: .idk? said:

    holy shit, internet explorer )o:

  431. Rake: Lutunen - [hePPa] said:

    AMAGAD Internet exploder. :()

  432. Franc: FcN| said:

    please ban Peter North for using a huge cumload cheat.
    can’t stand his porn cuz he always makes me feel insignificant
    anyway….cheaters get more publicity than amy winehouse,fuck that.*installing aimbot*

  433. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    oh-ho-ho berg you sure showed us, you pretended to be aimbotting so someone would make a vidoe of it.. what a puppet master you are!!

  434. berg said:

    i really dont care what u think it was, as i dont care what u think about me, what i care for is that i know the truth and yea its abit different than yours

  435. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    “This user has been banned from the ETF2L. This ban will expire on 11 April 2010”

  436. berg said:

    so what?

  437. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    just pointing out one of the truths you seem to be conveniently ignoring

  438. berg said:

    im ignoring that truth bcoz only I know (well maybe some of my friends) how i play, im not ignoring other bans, but i dont trust them 100% also, maybe bcoz of evidence, maybe something else, but its my choice to trust or not, so as yours. U trust the words and i dont (not always anyway)

  439. AnAkIn said:

    Falko, that because there are too much searches on google with the words “cheat”, “aimbot”, “wallhack” from your IP. :D

  440. beta: RaWr :: said:

    Guys, taken from my forum post:

    “I realise a lot of people would like to see evidence, won’t agree with decisions etc…I would ask that the team of admins (we appreciate your work) get the community involved, help us understand or at least make a collection of cheating clips? I remember years ago, we would actually record a movie of a player playing, the record the clip again with a wallhack on for example. Can you not do that same technique?”

    As techniques for looking for a wallhack and aimbot are totally different, the above shouldn’t be a problem and wouldn’t take you long.

  441. Extremer said:

    Anakin, no. It’s the text on the page, not only google searchers.

  442. Extremer said:

    *searches

  443. AnAkIn said:

    I was joking :/

  444. Robbenklopper said:

    berg hacks!

  445. Matt said:

    :\

  446. Abra said:

    “”As techniques for looking for a wallhack and aimbot are totally different, the above shouldn’t be a problem and wouldn’t take you long.””

    This is real bad coz no standart of detecting aim bot.No any proofs suck shaking cross or mamentally turn 180 or anything that can 100% prove cheats.

    Many innocence ppl have ban..Without any reason,jyst their aim looks like cheat..

  447. notger: dp. - dp. said:

    Yeah yeah, everyone is innocent.

    Don’t you think its funny that everytime a cheater is caught, he is denying everything and no time, there is someone who confesses and says he is sorry? It should be that way round.

    Anyway: Good job, admins!
    Keep on banning!

  448. Orbbaz said:

    Abra, theres no point in defending yourself.Everything is decided.The situation is like this:
    They say to a man:”Your sister is a whore!”
    The man:’But I DONT have a sister.”
    They:”It doesn’t matter she is a whore !!!”

    I’m realy sorry for you and a part of the rest of banned players.

    Peace;]

  449. AnAkIn said:

    You don’t need to be sorry for a cheater.

  450. Abra said:

    AnAkIn you are an asshole…And i dont need to be sorry a dumbass..

    Orbbaz I allready do not want the unban..Just some justice…

  451. The Insane Exfane: EPA - TWIN said:

    “Don’t you think its funny that everytime a cheater is caught, he is denying everything and no time, there is someone who confesses and says he is sorry? It should be that way round.”

    Payard did it, CREDITS!

  452. Aye Doc: d2f~ said:

    Orbbaz this is more like someone going “Your sister is a whore!” and you replying “But she is the most pristine virgin the world has ever seen, her purity is so great that Dante has written poetry about her!” and then your sister coming in and telling you that she REALLY likes having various ethnicities of sperm inside of her at one time

  453. FrAgola said:

    abra…well i said it to admins but they didn’t believe me…

    nighthawk… o he is my hero…. i remember something about a protest ticket in esl + match report here in etf2l, some time ago…. another time, they didn’t believe me…

  454. Gore_: starlight said:

    lol
    this is unreal
    I shocked

  455. John Spartan: -HH²- - Karaoke* said:

    Oh man, funniest read in a long long time, thank you admins, made my day :D

  456. John Spartan: -HH²- - Karaoke* said:

    ooooh also i should say, all the admins are my personal irl friends and i can guarantee that they would never ban someone unless they actually cheated!!

  457. Neaera: EC! said:

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1907543

  458. Oggy said:

    Abra after seeing you’re vid and seing your pistol tracking how can you complain about your ban, it’s a blatent aimbot sheesh

  459. fJack: k^m said:

    1 year’s too lenient tbh, if they had the gall to do it once…

  460. Abra said:

    Thnx Oggy It’s like u talling me that your aim sucks compare to mine ))) And u dont belive some one do it with hands :D

  461. FrAgola said:

    shut up and…

  462. ^dazed said:

    dont think all of these can be correct, some of them are too shit to have used aimbot. Abra deffo hax though just look at his frag movie lol way to go. Hmmmm how can I prove my innocence? I know i’ll release a movie showing my aimbot in action that’ll work! PLAYED.

  463. ^dazed said:

    check these little dudes out they dont cheat they pwn naturally

    http://www.japanesebugfights.com/

  464. ^dazed said:

    although having said that No. 27 is a little unfair, one of em doesnt get a weapon call ze admins!

    http://www.japanesebugfights.com/27.htm

  465. Abra said:

    LOL My movie showing aimbot in action.Yea,sure it is))) lamers

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